We have been in this district sinceour children were born. This is really across the board policy. The district is behind it actually. This is the policy in all the schools in this district.
About 1-2x a month I ask my neighbor if I can look at her 2nd graders folder from school..Im relieved to see that we are right on track or above it in some classes. The method of math didnt make much sense to me I like my method better lol. although to answer your question, yea my neighbor had no clue of how what her dd was doing in school if she didnt have that weekly folder that comes on mondays and fridays..
This past summer, I talked to one of my friends whose children are in a local Christian school. This is the school we would like for our children to attend if something ever happened and we couldn't continue homeschooling. I was interested to know if they studied history chronologically, or if they did a half-term of American history and a half-term of world history. I was surprised that she had no idea! She has two kids, 2nd and 5th grades, and she really didn't know. Now, I know that this school does not plan to keep parents in the dark. But it is interesting to me that she could have had that information with a phone call or a in a parent-teacher conference, or they would welcome her into the classroom anytime...but it is something that she never thought to ask. I think with any traditional school experience, public or private, parents tend to be relaxed about things, and figure that the professionals will handle it. I think it might be worse in a Christian school, where a Christian parent feels like now everything will be all right. I'm not saying that it is a huge issue regarding when you study a certain period of history, but that is just an example of one thing.
Title 18 1030: (2) intentionally accesses a computer without authorization or exceeds authorized access, and thereby obtains— (A) information contained in a financial record of a financial institution, or of a card issuer as defined in section 1602 (n) of title 15, or contained in a file of a consumer reporting agency on a consumer, as such terms are defined in the Fair Credit Reporting Act (15 U.S.C. 1681 et seq.); (B) information from any department or agency of the United States; or (C) information from any protected computer if the conduct involved an interstate or foreign communication; It's very vague, the law could mean any number of things.
I think are completely mistaken about what I was describing above..... I am not doing ANY of those things. I am simply accessing what is already posted on the internet. intentionally accesses a computer without authorization I am not "Breaking into" anyone's computer. I am accessing their content already PUBLICLY posted on the internet on UNSECURED pages... I am not obtaining anyone's financial information (Are you nuts? Where would you get THAT??) Information from any department or agency of the United States... UHm... When I go to texas.gov am I NOT obtaining information from a government agency??? And again, we are NOT talking about "Breaking into a computer or server" What is this Mission impossible??? And... information from any protected computer if the conduct involved an interstate or foreign communication; DID you even READ what I typed about what I was doing??? That one is COMPLETELY irrelevant... Just because something is a tip or idea does NOT make it illegal. Just because the pages are "Unlisted" it is NOT illegal to access those pages, anymore than it is illegal to call an unlisted phone number.... Backing up on a url to see where it comes from, or to see what else is there is NOT illegal. it is publicly posted information. You completely misinterpret either what I originally wrote, or the laws themselves.. neither match.
I agree with Username, Jen! By doing what you say, there's a POSSIBILITY that you're going to gain access to a restricted place. He's just typing the SPECIFICS of the law, not saying that you are doing ALL of them. It's just a friendly warning, that's all. To me, you ARE in a gray area. You are "intentionally accessing" areas, some of which may be restricted. And I believe the schools are considered "government agencies". You could easily access payroll without meaning to or records pertaining to grades. But since you went searching, it can be construed as "intentional", whether that's where you were wanting to end up or not.
I bolded the parts which you may be in violation of. I did not claim you were violating every little part of the law. That would be absurd. I simply posted the law in it's entirety. I think you misunderstand what I am saying you might be doing, so let me clarify. You may be intentionally exceeding your authorized level of access by accessing unsecured indexes of data found on state or government websites(even if the data is public on other pages). This isn't "mission impossible" stuff, this is you using a common web exploit(Well in the 90's it was) to access a list of data that isn't supposed to be publicly available even though all the data contained in the list is public. Although, we can't be sure, because the law has never been interpreted in court.
My two cents In both my experiences with ps and private school, I was astounded at how much they kept parents filled in on what the kids were learning. They both sent home folders that had to be signed each day and sent back to school that listed what they did in class as well as any homework assignments. The private school even had the daily assignments available online! You would have really had to be not paying attention not to know what was going on with either of these schools. I assumed that most schools were doing such things- at least the assignment folder. But I guess not. Like someone else said in this forum, the school probably has an open door policy for any parents that are concerned.
Jen is right, she is not doing anything wrong. Just because a page doesn't show up in a search engine does not make it "illegal" to access. It just means it doesn't show up with a regular search. If the school (or biz, or person) does not want those pages accessed, it is easy to block or delete or password-lock the pages. All she is saying is that you can "back into" a page. Once you post a valid ULR on the 'net without password protection, you authorize access. To require everyone to call the parent company to get permission to type a few lines on a URL would be ludicrous. How, exactly, can deleting part of a URL be illegal? I'd like to see them haul Jen into court for that one. :roll: SG
OK, ready for this? Carl has a MA in Educational Technology. He is certified to teach high school math and computer applications. Today he found out that he's not "qualified" to teach Word because he isn't "business" certified, and Word Processing is considered Business, rather than Computers. There is a possibility (not a big one, but it IS there) that he will have to change schools and go back to teaching math 2nd semester. Oh, and he's also not certified to teach web design; that's also business and not computers. Sigh.... Don't you just LOVE Educrats?
My son will be going to ps until Christmas break (Dec 11th) and is in 4th grade. I don't know about most people, but I am extremely aware of what he is doing in school. Not only do they bring home an agenda book every day listing each thing they did in each class, but ALL of their papers for the week are sent home in folders to be reviewed and signed by a parent. Before every test, detailed reviews of what is going to be on the test is sent home to be studied. We are made aware of test grades immediately. A 3 week progress report is sent home detailing problem areas. We have parent-teacher conferences (on the phone if one on one is not possible) each 6 week grading period. If I feel that I am not sure what is going on, I am a note-writer (much to the chagrin of my child's teachers I'm sure, haha) and send a note asking for more detailed explanations or clarification on subjects. I know I may be in the minority here, but I do believe the ps my son goes to does the best it can. I do not agree with a lot of their methods and repetitive assignments and lack of challenge (and on and on!) but they do try to let us know what is happening.
Sounds like your son's current school is doing a great job of keeping you informed. My kids Dept of Defense school in KY did a good job as well but not as much info as you seem to have...WOW! Like you, I was forever writing notes or sending e-mails or asking questions when I was in the building for PTO if I had any questions.:lol:
Rhonda, It really does; it's just that my son is so unchallenged at his school that it is ridiculous. He gets great grades and breezes through, but he is becoming so bored and annoyed that he is right on the edge of becoming a disruption in class. He is always finished first and trying to speak to other students, so the teacher gives him more busy work and he just gets so frustrated. Unfortunately, ps is just not a good option for my son individually (as I'm sure a lot of people feel). I think he is capable of so much more if he were really challenged more, so I really believe home schooling is going to be a good fit for him, especially since all of the summer "trial runs" I've done with him have really gone well. Here's to hoping!
Wow! I had to have a major background check before I taught in any classroom in our area, even to just sub after I graduated college. I cannot believe they didn't require a background check for teachers.
It's been my experience that Special Ed tries to keep more in communication than "regular" ed, though this probably varies from the "label" and also the teacher. When I taught Physically Handicapped, the kids would have notebooks. We were encouraged to write daily in them, and would encourage the parents to write US dailly. This was especially true with the non-verbal kids, who couldn't go home and tell about their day. Like with all things, some parents were great, others were not. I know this was a practice in the Hearing Impaired classes, too. As far as parents dropping in, some parents are simply a PAIN! I had a g'pa who came regularly unexpected and he really disrupted my whole class every time, plus there was NOTHING I could do that would please this family, and he would complain to the parents about how terrible I was. But the same year, I had a young lady who lived in an institution (in Ohio!). Parents were divorced, and custodial parent (Mom) lived in FLORIDA (!!!) Dad wanted custody and to bring the little girl home with him, but worked strange hours. He needed a caretaker at home during those hours. So here's the problem. If he had CUSTODY, he could get government assistance for a caregiver. But he couldn't GET the custody until AFTER he had a caregiver all set up. So he was stuck in a Catch 22. Because of his wierd hours, he would drop in unexpectedly at school to visit with Kimmie, but it was NEVER a problem; he had such a WONDERFUL attitude in my class!
