Another X thread.....

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  1. shelby

    shelby New Member

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    My 3rd grader is having so much trouble learnning these..... We are on 6's but honestly, she can't remember a lot of the others! WE are doing counting by 2, 3,4, 5,6..... I have made a worksheet up that we do everyday, then I give her another worksheet and she does them, but she has trouble......I have told her that if she can remember how to count by 4 (ex) then she can figure out how what is 4x6 is . This is so hard for her, and her math book is moving to fast that I have just laid it aside for now....

    If your child had trouble what did you do to help?

    oh and we have been playing x games on the computer....
     
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  3. chicamarun

    chicamarun New Member

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    Honestly - we still do flash cards in 4th grade. My dd tried the "Times Tales" and never got it..... so she has a multiplication chart and she plays Timez Attack. That's about it. She knows some - but not all and if I push it.... she stresses so much nothing else gets done - hence - the chart ;)
     
  4. Sue May

    Sue May New Member

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    My children had difficulty learning their x's. I tried all sorts of things. Nothing really worked. But, there is good news :). When they reached junior high or high school, they learned them. They know them better than I ;)!

    Don't lose heart. Keep working on it. It will come.
     
  5. shelby

    shelby New Member

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    so should i just move on . or take more time....
     
  6. momofafew

    momofafew New Member

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    Times sheets never helped.

    She needs to learn instant recall on these.

    I used www.citycreek.com I am not positive it helped, but it was fun!

    The other thing is, I also used drill programs. I used math-u-see's free drill program, I used flash cards. On the flash cards, if she got one wrong or did not answer fast enough, I would tell her the math fact in whole and had her repeat it back while look at the question side of the card. Then I sat the card down and did another. Then I picked the missed card back up. If she got it wrong, repeat. If she got it correct, do about 3 more facts and go back to it. If she got it wrong, repeat. If she got it correct, return to the fact after maybe 6 or so more problems. Eventually, put the fact in the correct pile. Repeat the entire pile later. Sometimes, I do the entire pile. When working on a new fact, I do just the numbers we were working on. I never do facts we have never worked on of course.

    (I had an interest in child development and cognitive development in college so I took some courses even though it was not my major, then I read specifically. I based my idea on some long term/short term memory conversion ideas I read about it and worked for us, it might for you too).
     
  7. tsmama

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    Times Tales really did help my son. It got him over the "hurdle"...maybe because he is a visual learner. After a while, he didn't even have to think about the stories, anymore, he just knew the facts. I was pretty impressed with the program.

    Best of luck!
    TSMama24
     
  8. kmogusar

    kmogusar New Member

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    i don't have kids yet... but maybe if you teach her to multiply by ones she already knows and add them together until she gets what she wants? thats one of the ways i did it when i was little and i got ahead of everyone else fast.

    i.e. your example of 4x6... it was kind of hard for me to think "ok, 6+6+6+6" or "4+4+4+4", but if i thought "4 is 2x2, so 6x2 is 12 and 12x2 (or 12+12 if i didnt remember what 12x2 was) is 24. and after doing that a bit i tended to eventually memorize what 6x4 was because i did it so many times the other way and repitition is how you learn.
    i never was a times table type of kid... i couldn't memorize things straight out if they didnt interest me, and times tables sure aren't very interesting. it's like learning your ABCs with out a song, except with a lot more to learn. boooring

    edit: another example might be something like 7x6. if she knows that 7x3= 21, and can do 21+21 in her head, then she's got the answer without doing the mind boggling 7+7+7+7+7+7.
    and if she hasnt got that far with 7s, she could think "there's 3 2s and a 1 in 7, so 6x2x3= 12+12=24+12=36, then add 6 since 6x1=6. though that looks more complicated on paper... it felt pretty easy in my head.

    edit2: o_O i thought when people said times tales they were misspelling times tables
     
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  9. Sue May

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    What I did, don't know if it was best, I moved on and kept drilling using all sorts of things. What seemed to help with my son was showing him that if he learned all the two's, four's, and five's, then when it was time to learn the three's he did not have to learn so many because he already knows 2 x 3, 4 x 3, and 5 x 3. Hope I am making sense. When he realized that he did not have to learn quite so many as he first thought, he was more willing to try to learn.
     
  10. mommix3

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    My ds12 was having AWFUL issues with his times tables. We use math u see and finished up gamma last year. I went ahead and moved him on to Delta. At the beginning of the year he was still struggling. So we put the math book aside and worked on his times tables. I drilled him with flashcards. We did something similar to writing sentances.. a few lines of the same problem. 8x8=64 8x8=64.. that sort of thing. It helped him a bit. Along with letting him use a multiplication chart. But I wasn't seeing progress that I was hoping for. Someone told me about times tales and I bought it. That has helped him Soooo much!! We have been able to move on in the math book and today he only missed 1 problem on the two pages of math he did..
     

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