Already getting frustrated with the public school...

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  1. chicamarun

    chicamarun New Member

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    One of our fd's doesn't even HAVE a pre-algebra book. She comes home with worksheets and I asked to see the book (expecting an example) and she said they didn't HAVE one! HUH!?!?! I was SHOCKED and furious because how do they expect us to help the kids if they don't provide them with what they need?

    Good think I know how to find stuff online or can find it in Jake's books...
     
  2. crazymama

    crazymama Active Member

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    I sent a note on the test that I had to sign and return :roll:

    If at all possible, we would appreciate it if you could send home Garrett's book and workbook pages on the geometry chapter(s) so that we may get him where he needs to be with it. The math we have been using (Teaching Textbooks grade 6) does not cover this material until the end of the year (inserting this now... hope that it does in case he looks at the site..lol). Thank you.

    I really could care less if he never hits benchmark on anything, but at the same time I don't want them failing him for 5th grade and me bringing him home and having to make him redo 5th grade (you know adding an extra year to his agony, since he obviously isn't a fan of schoolwork.).
     
  3. crazymama

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    Garrett didn't say that they don't have a book.. but I'm wondering. He did say that the teacher pulled all the pages out of the workbook and threw them out... I told Garrett then he better get to digging in the dumpster!
     
  4. fairfarmhand

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    I took a public school class in high school . It was a joke. Actually, when I was there , they wouldn't LET us bring a book home. I guess too many kids wouldn't bring them back. Every day they would pass out the books at the beginning of class.
     
  5. sloan127

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    We had a high school age foster son a few years ago who struggled with Algebra. He kept bringing home worksheets without his book. I kept asking for a book so I could help him. The teacher kept saying they couldn't take the books home because they didn't have enough books. I went to the school and told the teacher this child could not do the work unless he helped us get a book to work with at home. He dug out an old Algebra book from a few years earlier and told us to keep it. That was the best he could do but at least we could match up our FS's work with the older book and make some sense out of it. I cannot understand how the school expects parents to help with homework without a book or some instructions. My son calls me every few weeks over my grandson's math because they won't let him bring a book home. So far I have been able to help them with what we have here. It is so frustrating!
     
  6. crazymama

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    Yeah, hubby and I just had a discussion over the school taxes in this area and the fact that the school doesnt' even supply tissues or soap for the kids to use. We are both ready to pull him right back out, but know that doing so won't teach Garrett the lessons he needs to learn about respect. I dug out his TT6 book and looked through it for the geometry section and also got out our The Complete Book of Algebra and Geometry for grades 6-8 and we will be working on those at night, because I'm pretty sure he won't be bringing things home from the school to help him not fail and look like a fool (and me a failure as a teacher).
     
  7. ForTheSon

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    I understand your need to have your DS respect you and to actually want to learn. I think him attending PS will accomplish that. You are saying that you want him to stay through the end of the year to really reinforce this. But in an earlier entry you had a concern about the school failing him for fifth grade. Wouldn't it still work to your benefit to allow him to remain at least 1 more month say, and then pull him before the end of the year. He will have enough time to see that the PS isn't the right way, and not to think that you "caved" in to his whining. He will learn to respect your way of teaching. You are using the HS lessons to help him through anyway. Count his PS hours for your HS hours for the year, he is in school either way. If you pull him before the end of the year, they can't fail him, he isn't theirs to do that to.

    Does any of that make sense???
     
  8. crazymama

    crazymama Active Member

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    Ah good point. I will have to talk to our evaluator and see how much paperwork he will need from before and after. I have kept everything he has done so far this year, just in case I have to do battle at all since I feared them saying he wasn't doing anything at home since I know he stinks at writing and grammar type things..lol, so it really wouldn't be a problem anyway I guess, just filing a new afadavit, which is no biggie.
     
  9. KrisRV

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    well if it was me I would march right to the school and have a wonderful meeting with the teacher. First I would say if you want him to learn and get help at home where are the books to do so, If you can't send the books home then you need to send directions and sample.
    Also, I wouldn't pull him out, he will be fine and they will too. I think they are trying to see how far they can pull your leg and his. So, step up and show them who is boss. You can be nice and so can they can. Just do it before it gets out of hand.
     
  10. momofafew

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    Just because the public school fails him, does not mean you have to. Why would you have to repeat the entire grade at home just because the public school would have at their building?
     
  11. momofafew

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    I don't see how sending him to public school is going to teach him respect. It will get him out of your hair for a while, so you don't have to deal with it not. But public schools are not known to teach children respect, morals, or otherwise.
     
  12. Brooke

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    I just wanted to second the notion that you don't have to "fail" him when he returns home. It might vary by state, but here, even at school they need a parent's consent to retain a child. It is their responsibility/burden to make sure that he learns what he needs to learn.

    Extra homework every night--BONUS! That will go a loooooong way in solidifying his appreciation for homeschooling. And with homeschooling comes expectations from him which he will be much more agreeable to comply with. Hang in there, mom! It will be worth it for all of you in the end.
     
  13. crazymama

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    Hubby and I talked and he feels it is best for him to stay till the end of the year... and really I do to.

    He didn't bring home any extra math last night, not like I expected him to, but he did work on his TT before he has scouts, even if it was a fight to get him to do it :roll:
     
  14. leissa

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    to me,this is a perfect example of ps not working. Officials say it can't be done at home yet here you are doing the work at home when it isn't getting done there! I really beleive Garret will see the difference between "assembly line learning" and "wow,mom really cares!" and that will make all the difference when he comes back home. We are all still praying for your situation.
     
  15. ForTheSon

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    I agree completely, the PS won't teach respect, I don't know of a single example of a child needing to learn respect and getting that lesson at PS. But a child that is not respecting mom and home school that now has to withstand PS will feel more respect toward what mom was doing at home. It's all about that child having a comparable. They would be able to see the benefits first hand of HS. I have no praise for the PS that I pulled my DS from, he is doing world's better at home.
     
  16. crazymama

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    Thank you, I didn't see how anyone who has followed the mess of a story about our situation.. or even this thread, could not see how putting him in public school for a while would help him respect me and homeschooling. ;)
     
  17. MonkeyMamma

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    Exactly.
     
  18. fairfarmhand

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    I don't know about respect, but gratitude might definitely change the attitude.
     
  19. crazymama

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    exactly.. it goes hand in hand ;)
     
  20. Jackie

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    In defense of the teachers (but NOT in defense of public education, lol!):

    Carl doesn't have enough books for all the kids in his classes. If he teaches three math classes, he has just enough books for everyone in maybe 1 1/2 classes to each have a book. Even if only taught one class and passed them out, he has learned through experience that the kids WILL NOT bring their books to class with them. They sit in the locker, and aren't opened all year long. So when they come into class he passes them out and has to collect them at the end of class, both of which wastes teaching time. He has no other choice in this. Anything that isn't covered IN CLASS doesn't get done, because his students are too unmotivated/lazy to do it on their own.

    I'm specifically talking high school here. Sorry, but that's the way it is. And yes, it IS one of the reasons this public school teacher is so supportive of my homeschooling!
     

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