I don't understand what is going on with parenting now days. I don't get it. We have meet a few homeschool families. Two of them have young children under the ages of 3. One family has twin girls 3 and a 5 year old boy the other has 3 year old girl and 4 year old boy. Ok they sit and brag about how smart there kids are. Doing first grade workbooks reading and asking for more work. OK then why can't your child go to the bathroom. My girls hate going over to there places, every time we go the kids are running around with no clothes and the boys are sitting there playing with there things. OK we teach our kids to wash after the bathroom but its ok to sit and play with your self. GROSS don't think so. Then the mothers sit and say I can't get them to go to the bathroom on the pot. They will go potty all over the house and couches. Yes, there house smell bad. They put towels on the couch to try and cover smell but it don't work. One little guy points his thing in the fan and goes. WHAT? What is wrong with this picture? You sit and brag how smart your child is, but they can't go the bathroom where they are suppose too. Well first of all put clothes on the kids so they have to go bathroom. Something is wrong here, I don't get it? How can your child be so smart and not go potty? Ok if there was a medical reason I would understand but nothing. Just lazy all of them. Thanks, for letting me rant but it bothers me to see this going on I say something every time I go over to the kids where are your clothes. They want to sit on my lap I say not till you get some clothes on and not play with it. They laugh the mothers laughs and say we are trying house break them. Ok then do it. If they are smart enough for first grade work they are smart enough for the bathroom.
I would not go to these homes if they are letting the kids run around without clothes on and pee on everything. Too gross for me!
Ditto! :? As for being smart, but not potty trained, that's a different issue entirely. Each type of skill (cognitive, social, motor, etc.) is independent of the others. There are a lot of 3 year olds who aren't potty trained, no matter how smart they are. There are a lot of 7 year olds who still wet the bed at night. That doesn't mean they're not smart. I think the parents are to blame in this case, though, for sure! That's just sick. I know a lot of people let their kids run around in diapers, or naked for a very brief (day or two) attempt at cold-turkey potty training, but I'm certainly not either of those. We're modestly dressed at all times, and I potty train with underwear and plastic covers. A kid won't know they need to go if they never feel uncomfortable, right? Pull-ups, IMHO, should be reserved for times when you anticipate not being able to make it to a bathroom with your child (like a long car ride or a public place with distance between bathrooms).
I have to say, I wouldn't be comfortable with that either! I've known several families that are basically clothing optional where their young children are concerned, but NONE of them tolerate making messes in the house. All their children are potty trained. And I've never seen any of the kids play with themselves. I don't have an issue with preschool nudity. But I definitely have an issue with preschoolers going potty all over the house! Honestly, I don't think I could stand visiting. I wouldn't want to touch anything, much less sit on their furniture.
I agree. Smart doesn't mean easy potty training. Easy potty training doesn't mean smart. Motor skills may be ahead or behind cognitive skills. I never even attempted to potty train any of my kids until they turned 3. BUT if they aren't ready for potty training, but something on them!! Could be those kids are playing the mom too.
I'm not sure how to respond. We do child led potty learning. If my friends disagree with it, they are free to not have me over. Lol. We do not believe in forcing such things on children. My daughter potty learned at age 4 of her desire, she is now almost 10 and has no issues from it. My son is 2 and has no desire to start. Intelligence has nothing to do with controlling bodily functions ) If your friends' children smell because of it, you could simply choose (perhaps) to only visit them in "open air" spaces (the park, for example). Lol. Good luck with that! It must make you uncomfortable.
Oh wow! That's just laziness on the part of the parents. And then you consider the health implications GROSS GROSS GROSS !!! (I'm not a dainty person by any means however I do know when to draw the limits of down right dirty habits and that's one of them... oh my good Lord). Even when I was potty training the boys, they still had clothes on... if they wet themselves, we took off the dirty (and rinsed them) and then put on clean. Kris, you don't need to be in that kind of environment. God love you <3
I am all for child led potty too. But...............running around making messes where ever is like having a puppy and saying oh well who cares. Um they should. Further being naked in front of other people isn't acceptable in society so put some duds on the kids and let them learn modesty. My neighbors grandson lives with them he is the same age as my son. I hated seeing him stand nude in the front window until he was like five. And even now at eight he freely admits to going commando. I don't think decorum is being taught there so I would likely avoid those families. Just tell them you have issues with little kids fiddling with themselves whilst on your lap or in your presence. Frankly it seems rather inappropriate to allow you child to behave that way in the company of others. I could go on but I won't.
Oh Kris, if only you knew what goes on in our area. I once was outside playing with my boys and a little boy of about 3 wanders out from who knows where, wearing not a stitch of clothing, not even a diaper and proceeds to play....I tried to figure out where he lived, but had no luck....finally 35 minutes later mom comes out looking for him....by this time I had put an old pair of my sons shorts on him so at least his little thing was covered. Do you know the mother had the nerve to yell at me for putting "strange clothes" on her child, and that it's none of my business what her child does! UGH!
Birbitt I hope you told her that it is your business when the child is in your yard playing with your kids.
I did tell her that it became my business when her child came out and was playing with mine, and I didn't feel my children needed to be seeing a child run about naked.
[/B :shock: The saying,"No good deed goes unpunished" is the only thing that springs to mind. Just ludicrous.
Yes, it was crazy. Of course this is the same mother who leaves her 5 year old home ALONE, while she goes to the store grocery shopping. He usually comes over here bored asking if my boys can come out and play. I almost always say no, simply because I don't want to be responsible for him.
Being smart and potty training have nothing to do with each other. A child may be smart enough to potty train, but not diciplined enough to do it.
Oh, I've tried reporting it, but since they don't actually catch her leaving him home alone they can't do anything. I've tried calling and reporting it when I know he's alone, but they don't show up for hours. Nothing else I can do.
ok maybe I said some things wrong or not clear. Yea being potty trained and smart are two different things... but if they can tell you what they are doing,and laugh about it, then I think they are smart enough to go potty on the pot.
When we started HSing I had a 12yo, 6yo, 3yo, 1yo, and an infant. My three year old was still in diapers and my DH and MIL was adament that I get him potty trained, but he wasn't ready and it was the same with the next two. My last little one was almost four when he was finally trained and I was critized the whole time. I didn't care though because I just believe in not pressuring them to be potty trained. HOWEVER my boys were always clothed and although I did let them run around in their underwear at the end to help with the training I would not allow that in front of company nor would my boys want to. I don't consider myself a prude or anything(with five boys that would be a moot point) but esp. in the presence of company they would have to have clothes on the entire visit and I can't imagine letting them purposely soil the furniture and floors. I wouldn't be comfortable there but if I liked their company, I would suggest meeting in a public place to ensure that they will be properly dressed.
Eww. Okay back in the day when my two were potty training I did the long shirt with nothing underneath but to go totally naked no way. I knew someone whose daughter at seven would just strip and head for the hills (no joke) during the summer. I am personally not comfortable with little boys thinking its okay to 'play' with their stuff and wouldn't be comfortable in the home either.
First, I agree with intelligence and potty training are not related. I've even heard that some of the most ingelligent are often the more difficult to potty train for some strange reason!!! Second, I'm not against letting a kid go bare-bottomed to train. When I tried this with Faythe (after all else failed) it worked within 24 hours!!! BUT I did NOT allow my kids to run around outside naked. I did put Faythe (and Phillip later) in nothing but a T-Shirt that came to their knees (so they'd be covered) and let them play in our backyard (which Carl still wasn't too comfortable with) whem trying to train them. Third, to be quite honest, this sounds like either lazy parenting or a discipline issue (or both). What do the kids do when they go to someone else's home? Not to mention the hygiene issue! Finallly, a funny story. My friend (the one who suggested letting Faythe go bare-bottomed - she's a hs'er with nine kids so she has LOTS of experience!) had a 2yo son who went bare-bottomed in their yard during the summer. She was OK with him "watering the plants" out back; it's what she allowed all her kids to do. Well, one day they were at the public pool. And Judah pulled down his suit and started peeing in the pool!!! At the time, she wasn't right there to deal with it. When a guard tried to stop him, Judah turned around to listen to the guard and sprayed him!!! My friend was mortified, lol!!!
