Okay so we are on TT7 and for whatever reason my daughter and I are not getting the Lesson 22 Quilting right. My daughter and I keep getting a different answer than what TT wants when we do their formula for finding the how many blocks when you have the border. We follow the How To but still come up wrong. What are we missing? Not sure who is more frusterated her or me.
What exactly is it you're not understanding? If a quilt is 40x20, and blocks are 4" each, you just divide. You get 10 blocks x 5 blocks. If we were to add a 3" border to each side, the finished quilt will be 40"+ (2x3")=46" by 20"+(2x3")=26". So if you have a quilt that's 15"x18", and you want a 3" border, how many 3" blocks will it need? First, you need to subtract 6" from your measurements. 15-6=9, and 18-6=12. So, without the border, your quilt will be 15x12. Divide those numbers by 3, and you get 3 blocks x 4 blocks. If you multiply 3x4, you get 12 blocks total. So to get a quilt 15"x18", you'll need to make 12 3" blocks, and add a 3" border on each side. Does that answer your question? If not, tell me what you don't understand.
See? When I try to make it clear, I just make it more confusing!!! People, read what I mean, NOT what I type!!! Yes, you're right. 9x12, which means everything I said from that point on is wrong. Sigh.... Homeschooler06, has it become any clearer to you, or did I just mess you up all the more?
It was only one number that was wrong. All you have to change is the 12 to a 9, so everything else should be fine (I say "should" because I have to read this super slow to get it and I think it makes sense...it seems to be getting clearer each time I take each step slow....but I'm not completely sure :lol: ) : First, you need to subtract 6" from your measurements. 15-6=9, and 18-6=1. So, without the border, your quilt will be 9 x 12. Divide those numbers by 3, and you get 3 blocks x 4 blocks. If you multiply 3x4, you get 12 blocks total. So to get a quilt 15"x18", you'll need to make 12 3" blocks, and add a 3" border on each side.
Lol, and if you want to be technical about it, those numbers are really ALL wrong, because if you want to have finsihed 3" blocks, you need to cut them to be 3.5", because you need to allow for a quarter-inch seam allowance. But I'm guessing that's way too much math to bother a 7th grader with (unless said 7th grader was making a quilt!)
See.....now you totally lost me again. If I have finished 3" blocks how can I cut them to be 3.5"??? Either I am totally losing it and don't understand.....or you need to take a nap. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Because when you sew them together, there will be a 1/4" overlap (the seam allowance). If I have a bunch of squares, and I want each square to be 3" WHEN FINISHED, and I cut them to 3", then when I sew them I'll loose 1/4" on each side for that overlap. So that means they'll only be 2.5" finished.
We are getting to that lesson again today. Will let you know how it goes. Another fun one is Step by Step Problem Solving 7th grade workbook, at least they have it all laid out so we can see where we made a mistake in the problem solving. TT does't have the solutions out step by step.
no it's not a late night thing. I have watched the lesson (22) and her and I both are not getting the right answer (problem 10). We don't get even answers. The quilt is 62 inches wide and 82 inches long. Quilt boarder is 6 inches all the way around. Blocks are 5 inches. Than answer is W-10 and L - 14. We are getting 14.something and 18. something as the answer. i am feeling really dumb right now.
LOL, late night ANYTHING is never a good idea! (I say, at 11:00 PM, and I'm downstairs making hot vanilla honey chamomille tea with a shot of whiskey, because my throat is giving me grief!)
OK....I'm picturing a quilt. It's laying on the floor...62" across (wide) and going 82" down (long). You have a 6 inch boarder. Blocks are 5 inches. So the 10 blocks wide is 10x5=50. You have a 6" boarder, which is 6 inches on the left of the quilt and 6 inches on the right side of the quilt. That's a total of a 12" boarder. Added to the 50 would be the 62". Same with the length: The quilt (not counting the boarder) is 14 blocks: 14x5=70. There is 6" at the top and 6" at the bottom. 70+12=82. Does that make sense?? I think I'm right. If so.....I'm pretty excited! :lol: How are you doing it to get 14 something and 18 something??
Wait a minute...I'm lost. Jackie's quote makes it look like you already figured it out. But, I didn't see you say that. Bummer. Oh, well, I figured it out too. I think.
Yes. BatmansWife is correct. Subtract 12" (6" on each side) from both the height and width and you get 50x70. Divide each by five, and you get 10 blocks x 14 blocks.
Oh happy skippy!! A little background info about me: Out of all the school subjects, I struggled with math the most. I only went up through 9th grade general math. That's all I need to graduate back in the 80's.
Lol, but this is practical, life stuff! Not like "real" math :roll: that they teach in school books, lol!
found the issue. the lesson says to Add while the problems are like you said to subtract. I finally got to sit down and read, go thru and watch the lessons and hints. off topic but still TT related but everytime I install my TT3 is screws up my laptop. Hubby suggested I call the company, it may be an issue with the software but I bought it thru CBD.com not the TT website. Who would i call? I know its early state side and I can stay up and call the states since its Friday night.
Still call TT. Doesn't matter who you bought it from. Even if it were bought used, that's who you would call. I think what happened is that the lesson starts with telling you dimensions WITHOUT a border, and then later explains about "adding a border". So that's probably why you were trying to add. But in this problem, they were giving you the dimensions with the border ALREADY ADDED IN. Glad you worked it out!!!
This is exactly the issue...my 7th grader had the same problem not long ago...and I remember the same issue with a few years ago...we just assumed because the lecture told about adding the border in that is what we needed to do. But in the problem it is already part of the measurement...so you must subtract the border and then divide. Tricky wording.
