Hakim's A History of US

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  1. crazymama

    crazymama Active Member

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    In short, do you think these are enough for highschool? I see SL has it in core 100 which is a 1 year course and uses all books, if they are enough, would it still be enough for 2 years worth of history?

    Longer story (only read if you have a week or two to spare :oops: )

    Ok, so I'm trying to work on some long range plans. I think this is important for history.. just so I have an idea of what I need or want to cover now and what I will need or want to cover in the future.

    My plans have been to do about 2 years of world hist then 2 years of American, a year of state then do 2 world, 2 American, then a year or two of geography and a year of government and economics.

    I thought I had it figured out.. ok no I didn't. I am starting the 2 years of American which will be followed by a year of state. I know what I want to use for this round of American... The Complete Book of United States History, maybe Mara Pratt's This Country of Ours with it, not sure. Anyway, today I gave in and looked at K12's Human Odyssey (there are big samples on ChristianBook). I really like that for world history. I had figured I would probably just use either The Complete Book of World History, or one of our history encyclopedias (Kingfisher or Usborne) and flesh it out from booklists from SL, TOG, etc, and movies. Then we would be about 7th and 8th grade and would be back at American hist.

    For 7&8th and 8&9th grades American hist I planned on using Hakim with the Hewitt Syllabus (even though that plans it for one year.. I think 2 is better. Anyway.. Human Odyssey is 3 years long, and it's heavy (600+ page textbooks a year!), so I'm thinking that after our next 3 years I could start Human Odyssey which would take us another 3 years. K12 has HO as grades 7-9, Rylee and Reagan would use them in 6-8 and 5-7 respectively. That moves A History of US to 9-10 and 8-9 respectively.

    This plan lets me line Cameron up with them pretty well as he comes up with books more on his level. He will listen to CHOW during the others kiddos first 2 years of Human Odyssey then do a year of state (he will be in 4th) during their 3rd HO year. He will use The Complete Book of US while they do their 2 year A History of US course (his grade 5-6). Then when they move on to Geography and Gov/Econ he will begin his 3 years of History Odyssey (7-9), then he will do History of US in a year instead of 2 so that he still has 2 years to get Geography and Gov/Econ done.

    If you read all of this... you are too awesome....lol I hope I made some sense.
     
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  3. chicamarun

    chicamarun New Member

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    Hmmmm - beautiful feet books uses a few of them. Honestly I don't know why you wouldn't be able to drag them out - and of course it depends on the child....

    have to get ready for Tae Kwon Do - but will have to think on this one ;)
     
  4. BatmansWife

    BatmansWife New Member

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    I guess I'm awesome....cuz I read it all. :lol:

    Ok.....what was the question again? Oh, yeah....about Hakim's A History of US. :angel: I got the whole set at a flea market for 12 bucks. There's a lot there. I think it could definitely be used for 2 years. Especially if you add stuff to it (History channel dvd's, ect). I have the assessment book too (whoa! Didn't pay nearly what it's priced at)....maybe you'll be able to find a cheap copy between now and then.

    I've been driving myself crazy lately trying to figure out history too. I also like to have a long range plan in place. Just yesterday I talked to the "guide" for our school program and asked if the school would buy Beautiful Feet. She said she'd make it happen. So, looks like I'll be doing the American History Primary next year. I'm kinda excited about it. And, it's a load off my mind too.
     
  5. crazymama

    crazymama Active Member

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    What? Wait?? You aren't using MBtP???

    I have the Hewitt Syllabus for the History of US, they plan it out as a one year course for 8th grade.. but it's heavy if you ask me, lots of reading. But there is a test for each book and a list of suggested activities. I really like it and think it will be fine for high school use.

    Yes, there is a TON of information in the History of US books! I'm trying to read them myself right now... I'm still in the first one because I have to take time to digest what I read.
     
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    I was just coming back here to tell you about the Hewitt book (I was just reading a post about it on that board).

    MBtP?? Oh, that's old news. No, I'm kidding. I decided I'm going to use the literature units, which I'll get at Rainbow Resource. I'm going to try Grammar Island, BF Early American History, TT4/LOF, and HO Earth & Space with reading the RS4K prelevel books. Whew.... I finally decided that I didn't want to use the MBtP science & social. The lit guides are really what I want to use. Gosh, Summer...keep up with my plans! LOL! :lol:
     
  7. mommix3

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    What made you choose those books?? I'm asking because we can't seem to find anything that we like for history.. Nothing keeps the kids interest. Or maybe it's just that I have NO clue how to teach history where it's not boring and mundane.. I don't want to spend a fortune on books only to throw them to the wayside after a few months so I've been looking hoping to see something that will grab our interest.. So far, everything seems to be pretty much the same.. :/
     
  8. crazymama

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    Which books? The History of US? I'm not sure, I really like her writing style. I'm hoping the kids do too when they get to them...lol If not then we will probably head into some traditional textbook or something. k12's Human Odyssey? Go to Christainbook and click on the sample link, actually read it.. it's good! It doesn't feel like a chore to read it... that is important to me. I had avoided even looking at it because it's popular over on that site, but I'm really impressed. Really you could probably spread it out over up to 6 years... each book seems HUGE, but who has time for that? Here is a link to Human Odyssey book 1 and Here is a link to book 8 of the History of US books (the only individual book they have on Christainbook) for a sample of that. The writing is similar I think. Many complain about how busy the pages in History of US are, there are lots of sidebars, but I really like those, they help bring the rest of the text into "focus", they are just things that didn't fit into the main story style of the text.
     
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  9. crazymama

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    I am driving myself insane with trying to decide what to do! I have several options, I think my first one is the best but let me see if I can share my "charts" here in a basic way...

    The topic is listed first, then ry and reagan's grades (3,2 for example will be next year), the book I will use for them, then Camerons grade (p will be him next year), and what I would use for him.

    [US Hist] [3,2] [The Complete Book of US History] [P] [tagging along]
    [US Hist] [4,3] [The Complete Book of US History] [K] [tagging along]
    [state +] [5,4] [Unsure+Com. Bk of Pres & States] [1] [tagging along]
    [world] [6,5] [k12 Human Odyssey ] [2] [CHOW or A Little History of the World]
    [World] [7,6] [k12 Human Odyssey ] [3] [CHOW or LHOTW]
    [World] [8,7] [k12 Human Odyssey ] [4] [He will do state here]
    [US Hist] [9,8] [History of US ] [5] [TCBUSH]
    [US Hist] [10,9] [ History of US ] [6] [TCBUSH]
    [Geo] [11,10] [unknown ] [7] [Begin k12 HO for 3 years, then HOUS for 1]

    Ry and Reagan woudl do a year of gov after geography, Cameron will follow their same path pretty much after he hits 7th.

    I have also thought of starting SOTW now.. mostly because I want to do the AG... but then I can use the AG's for ideas when we get to k12's HO right? I mean any age kid can make a recipe.. and well they would be able to be more involved with it in a few more years anyway... But anyway do SOTW for the next 4 years, that would bring us to Ry and Reagan being in 7,6th grades.. then do K12 for 3 years, do all 10 books of A Hitory of US for 1 year, then a year of geography and a year of economy. That takes out the year of looking at state history and presidents. I would have to piggy back them (state has to be covered in elem school along with US history per state laws.. but I think there is enough US history in SOTW that I could count it... maybe before they get through 6th grade?)

    Why are there so many options?
     
  10. BatmansWife

    BatmansWife New Member

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    I like your first plan. But, maybe that's because it's all laid out and I can see it.

    Did you know that K12 has an American Odyssey book too? I think I'd like these for an additional resource, but too bad they are so pricey. Do you know if there is anything to go with these Odyssey books....or do you just read them?
     
  11. cabsmom40

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    I can answer about what I like about them...

    They are interesting and informative and down right enjoyable to read.
     
  12. cabsmom40

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    I think you could do one or two years of history with those as your base. If I remember correctly you are fairly relaxed in homeschooling, so no worries...

    My son is in high school and we used some of those in the past. For world history we do this and that. Mostly I have him read and sometimes we discuss things. Rarely do I have him do any questions or writing.
     
  13. crazymama

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    There are student pages and teacher pages, you can get them for 20-ish each on amazon, plus they do have an online component.. but it's expensive I think (I haven't looked really well.

    My plan for them would be to use crafts and activities from the SOTW AG books (if we don't use SOTW) and Map Quest Maps. Maybe do a timeline and some outlining and written and oral summaries.

    Let me see if I can lay out the plan if we used SOTW

    [World] [3,2] [SOTW ] [P] [tagging along]
    [World] [4,3] [SOTW ] [K] [tagging along]
    [World] [5,4] [SOTW + TCBUSH ] [1] [tagging along]
    [World] [6,5] [SOTW + TCBUSH ] [2] [tagging along]
    [World] [7,6] [k12 Human Odyssey] [3] [ ??? tagging? or TCBUSH]
    [World] [8,7] [k12 Human Odyssey] [4] [??? tagging? or TCBUSH]
    [US ] [9,8] [k12 Human Odyssey] [5] [??? tagging or State]
    [US Hist] [10,9] [ History of US ] [6] [??? tagging or k12 HO?]
    [Geo] [11,10] [unknown ] [7] [??? tagging or k12 HO]
    [gov/econ][12,11] [unknonn ] [8] [???? It just seems so much harder to line Cameron up this way... ugggg]
     
  14. crazymama

    crazymama Active Member

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    I would probably have Cameron doing completely different things once we got through SOTW he would probably look something like this:

    3~The Complete Book of US history
    4~The Complete Book of US history
    5~State and Presidents
    6~k12 Human Odyssey
    7~k12 Human Odyssey
    8~k12 Human Odyssey
    9~History of US
    10~History of US
    11~World Geography
    12~Gov and Econ

    This is probably my ideal plan..if I could go back and do it over. I would probably try to do History of US in 1 year so that they have an extra year to explore a social studies topic of interest (with SOTW before it)... which looking at my first list for the others, this is exactly that! So I guess my first list is the best one for us huh?
     
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    I'm going to look at them.. Sounds like something we may want to try..
     
  16. BatmansWife

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    What I was going to say when I read your list, is the very same thing you ended up saying. That it's basically your very first list. So, now you can either do the same list for all 3, or do the other list for R & R and this list for C. No help at all....right? :lol:

    ETA: Oops...just saw your post on your World/US History thread. Sounds like you tweaked the plan a little and have it all set. Looks good!
     
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  17. crazymama

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    Boy looks who isn't keeping up now..:lol:

    I talk in a lot of circles, I think that way too.... it drives me :twisted:
     
  18. TeacherMom

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    Oky I have been reading the links and my own links haha, but I wanted to say it looks good. Texty look but reads more easy reading for information. I am looking at the other history I showed a while back (American History by Stobach?)myself cause it has a great teacher book to go along with the work stuff.
    If your dcs can handle the reading to get information, or if you are doing like someone suggested and doing some videos or other stuff with it that would possibly be enough but why would you want to stretch it for 2 years? Just curious?
     
  19. crazymama

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    I want to have time for bunny trails, map work, projects, videos, report writing, digesting, there is a lot in those books. I don't think we would have much time for those things if we tried to do all 10 books in a year.
     
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    I'm tryin' to keep up.... :roll:

    :lol:
     
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    I think it would have to take 2 years. I can't imagine doing all 10 books in 1 school year. That would be at least a book a month. Even if you did 12 months it's still probably a book every 5 weeks. Just thinking of reading all those books out loud wears me out. I generally read out loud a little, not a lot (but dd tells me all the time she loves it when I read to her). I'm trying to prepare myself for what lies ahead for me next school year...doing a history through literature program, Grammar Island, LOF, reading the RS4K prelevel books, all those MBtP lit books.....it's reading, reading, reading, reading..... :eek:
     

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