Oh and check out my sig....speaks directly to this thread. Oh and here is another favorite of mine: "They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty or safety." Ben Franklin.
Ava, I get your argument, but I disagree, why should a young person be walking the street anyway. This happen in our hometown, last week, a little boy was walking the street his mother fell asleep on the couch, a police officer said he seen him walking he was 8 years old didn't think anything of it. The little boy crossed in front of semi truck and was killed. Now everyone is blaming the police officer for not doing his job and checking on the boy. First its not the police officer fault. I guess I can't get out what I want to say on here or what I mean. But, what I am saying is children of any age should not be left alone to wonder the street anytime day or night. You as a parent are just asking for trouble when you let them wonder. Second, I cann't see many or any of my buddies here letting there children wonder. It's a different world now days then when we grew up. We have to watch our children closely.
Kris, again I see what you are saying and now I only 1/2 disagree. LOL. There is a big difference between a policeman asking a child if he or she is ok or what's going on and a policeman taking a child into custody or giving a parent a hard time with no cause. I don't believe the incident you mentioned was the police officer's fault. The boy could have been just as easily killed during after school hours for that matter. However, if the officer would have asked the kid a question or two maybe the kid would still be alive. Who knows. However, what about kids walking around on the weekend? during breaks? during the summer? What's the solution then? They would not be considered truant...so should they just go on their merry way? That same kid wondering could still rape, steal, or get killed during the weekend or on a school break. Will more laws have to be made to "protect" the child or society during those times? In the short run, the idea of a cop asking a few questions is not a bad thing. I fear for the long run....that's my focus. I am not willing to loose freedom because of a few bad kids or parents out there.
Oh and Kris...I am not just directly talking to you. I am responding to you but not directing things at you. I am sure you know me well enough to know how much I love ya and respect ya...but I didn't want anyone to think this was becoming a 2 person debate. Wait...did I just feel the need to qualify my posts...didn't we all talk about this...LOL.. Sorry!
Ava, I hope you know I am not arguing with you I am agree with alot on what you are saying. I don't want to loose my freedom either. I also agree whats the different of kids wondering during school hours and non school hours. None in my books now what so ever. But, then again I don't agree of kids wondering unless they are going some place. Do you see what I am saying?
Ava, that is ok I understand 100 percent it's a open book and we all can respond and say whats on our mind we might not agree but hay thats life right.
The bottom line is that my kids have the RIGHT to be out on the streets during the day. Now, I may not LET them out because I don't feel comfortable with them ouside when there isn't anyone else out there. But that's ME as MOM making that decision. Today Rachael took school time to walk to the neighbor's house and take care of his dogs (he's on his honeymoom!!!). No, I didn't accompany her. I shouldn't have to. She's old enough, and I feel that it's safe enough for her to go from here to there. And, if a police should see her, I wouldn't have objected to his ASKING why she wasn't at school; at the same time, I WOULD object to him hassling her about it.
Yep, that's what I was saying also....maybe I should just put in all my posts "refer to Jackie...she said it best." LOL.
NOW, WAIT A MINUTE!!! I must NOT have "said it best" if you BOTH agree with me! I think SOMEONE must not have understood, lol!!!
I will admit I could of misunderstood but then again I am young and still learning alot. So, I have a reason to misunderstand. Whats your Ava? LOL
We don't have any daytime curfews here in Cbus Ohio but I have seen some signs at United Dairy Farmers (they have awesome ice cream and are always near a school) that say we will ask any kid who looks under 18 about something they learned in school today if they cannot answer then they are going to be refused service. Also I've seen ones that say no sales to school age children between 8am-3:30pm (or what ever time school gets out) with out parent. I think that if kids are done with their school work then they should be able to go out and do something fun. However they should be with a parent or guardian. Maybe if parents were with their kids (homeschooled or public schooled) they would be able to keep control of them better, get to know them. Thats just my opinion.
I don't think I've said that on here before. The UDF was in sunbury and west columbus. When I was in high school I was in a special AP program and me and the other three in the program were always stopped by the police asking us why we weren't in school. We just had a special paper from the school stating we were allowed to be out of school from noon to 3:30pm.
When I was in 12th grade at a ps, I only needed 2 classes per day but took 3 because I was in orchestra. That meant I went from 8 to 12 and then the rest of the day was mine. Although I was 16/17 that year I also had a job so I would get out of school around noon, eat lunch then run to work at about 1 to 2 p.m. If this had been in place at that time I would have had issues. I understand the reason the government steps in and tries to "help" with issues like this but as far as I am concerned this is one that should be dealt with between parents & children. There are just too many variables (from my story to hsing, and more) to make this work. It is like hurting the masses in order to help the minority ... doesn't work too well in situations like this.
My little brother only had one class his Senior year (government). The teacher taught it twice, once in the AM and once in the PM. Michael was also working at Wendy's, back when it served breakfast. If he was scheduled to work mornings, he would go to the afternoon class. If he was scheduled to work afternoons, he went to the morning class. His teacher was cool for this, as Michael WAS attending class and doing the work.
I like the idea of an ID that says if they are PS or HS. That way if they are out of school then they know where they are supposed to be. Also why can't PS IDs have a code on them just like State IDs saying something like AM for attends in AM or PM for afternoon or AD for all day. If the whole state went to a system then it would be better then just a county. I think some kids with to much free time have a tendency to cause problems. If they fix the that then everyone is safer. IMO
