High school level, Christian (?) American History

Steve what is the er, brand name? publisher? or a web site I can view this book on?

 

It's a series of books published by OUP. Here's one of them.

 

looks great! I will keep a book mark for 11th grade US history plans!

 

I have most of the History of Us series and I like what I have read from them.

She may have a bias, as all of us do, but I haven't found anything so strongly biased that I feel offended.

She does make history interesting.

I did find one mistake in one of her books. It was stating the population growth between two different time periods. It was something like this: New York had 100,000 and then two years later it had 150,000 people. She stated that this was a growth of 150%, when actually it was a 50% growth. It was on a chart.

Oh well, it isn't a perfect book series, but interesting and memorable.

 

Sonlight uses History of Us for their Core 100

 

I've never heard of that one. Looks great from what I can see, but I'd like to get my hands on one. Is it a "reading" book or a "textbook" (with quizzes, etc.)?

 

It was made as just a book series to read I think, but now I believe that they may have made something to help people use it as a curriculum. You can buy them used from Amazon or E-bay.

 

I've read that there are several errors, including biblical errors. I read several reviews on Hakim and was not encouraged. I choose Notgrass for a variety of reasons, though I won't lie -- the reviews played a small part in my decision to not go with Sonlight/Hakim. I've read several that are surprised Sonlight would continue to use Hakim's writings. While I agree different viewpoints are good, I'm not keen on blatant errors. Every History book has them, though it has been suggested Hakim has more than normal.

 

Can you link to the review about the Biblical errors? I am so confused here. How could there be Biblical errors in books about US History? :?:

 

We are using Core 100 from Sonlight for Jake this coming year. With the History of US books, we are also using these tests

https://www.hewitthomeschooling.com/Junior/jItem.aspx?id=2852

Yes they say Jr High... but they are decent enough for high school - especially with the essays. I just got them in so I'm still going over them.

He's excited about this Core and is already starting to look at the books and read them. I'm being a little "light" with him about it - but he wants to start 10th grade and I say he doesn't need to yet - he has other things to focus on (MATH!!!)

 

Ok, so this guy is obviously deeply offended that Hakim uses "Biblical myths" as he calls them; it is clear he doesn't believe in said "myths"; however he is correct that Hakim's use of the story of Abram/Abraham is not accurate.

His points about Hakim start nearly halfway down, after the small break.

http://www.textbookleague.org/111hakm.htm

I'm also curious as to why Hakim would bring Abram up at all, when it appears she doesn't connect any of the dots even though she alludes that she will.

There are other reviews on Amazon, Christian Book Distributors, and even Sonlight itself where homeschooling parents have raised similar questions to the ones that Hautala raises in the link above.

Again -- I want to stress this is far from the only reason why I did not choose this curriculum, but it certainly made me pause.

(incidentally, there is another link on this same site that breaks apart some of Hakim's errors in Europe history; though I haven't read this particular link terribly close, so I won't vouch for it.

 

Here is my thing - that review is from a different edition (pub 1999 - new one is from 2007) so I'm not sure if it is the same.

However, no one will agree with everything everyone writes on every subject. It's all perspective. I know Sonlight has "other viewpoints" in their notes section...

it's dinner and i have to run - if I get a chance I'll get back

 

Thanks! I don't see why Bible characters are part of US History That said, I have yet to find an American History textbook that I will use. I like Zinn's book, but it isn't cumulative.

 

We are using Notgrass as well. I've put it to the side for now, but a dear lady from here loaned it to me this year so I need to finish it up and get it back to her.. We have enjoyed it.. LOTS of reading involved.. We have done it as a group with ALL my kids.. This is the JR high set.. Next year we will move onto world history I think... Mardel sells them now so if you wanna take a hands on look at them go there and grab up a copy and see whatcha think.. I never can tell enough from online previews.. Need to hold the real thing in my hands..

 

There's a junior high Notgrass...? Or just junior high age kids?

ETA: WOW!!! I REALLY didn't like All-American History for middle school; this might be more what I want for Phillip!!! Only problem is where to fit it in with MOH....

 

Well it's Jr high age kids.. Grades 5-8/ages 10-14 called America the Beautiful.. We have barely scratched the surface of the curriculum but it will get finished before it has to go back to it's original owner.. My kids really enjoy it.. We use it as a read aloud..

 

I agree -- it's most definitely all perspective. And, in fact, another history buff and I sat around and quizzed one another from the Notgrass question and quiz book a couple weeks ago. He and I found a couple very small, mostly insignificant, errors there; but all in all it was well-written and historically correct. Anyway, my point is -- no book seems to be 100% correct 100% of the time.

And yes, I saw that Sonlight writes a companion that helps "balance the liberal perspective", as Sonlight says. One reviewer commented that it literally doubled their work load; I simply don't have time to unravel piece by piece between the two books (I work full-time; if life was different, it could be an interesting study in logic and debate and critical thinking). But, I know that was only ONE review and must be taken with a grain of salt, for sure!!!

 

Doesn't that speak volumes of today's Christian culture? I suppose, in Sonlight's eyes, the millions of supposed Christians who are not conservative in their politics aren't 'real' Christians! That a curriculum provider should suggest such a thing is unbelievable. (But not really: Ken Ham is even more extreme.)

 

PROOF!!! He really IS a troll!!! :love:

 

It's true, though, isn't it? 'Christian culture' just assumes that all Christians do certain things, believe certain things, and all fit into the same box. If you're outside the box, "maybe you ought to pray about it." It drives me bonkers. You'd think that modern history is immune, but oh no.

Trolls hate boxes.