Huckabee supported by HSLD

Discussion in 'Homeschooling in the News' started by aggie01, Dec 18, 2007.

  1. Emma's#1fan

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  2. Jackie

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    I've not read the article, but I'm very bothered when Christians sit and discuss voting for a person because he's "the only one with a chance of beating...." To me, that's walking in fear. We are NOT responsible for who wins any election; God is. Our responsibility is to vote for whoever we feel God is leading us to vote for. A "come-from-behind" candidate CAN win an election if enough people are obeying God and voting for him! But that will NOT happen if we all respond out of fear and vote for a candidate we don't believe in out of fear of the person running against him.

    I've no idea yet who I will vote for, and it may well be Huckabee. But it I DO, I will be doing so out of conviction, not out of fear.
     
  3. sixcloar

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    This is pretty much the reason, although there are some other points in the article.

    Because of her past support for the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child, we believe that it is absolutely essential to find a candidate who can beat her. If she is elected president, both homeschooling and parental rights would be in serious jeopardy.

    I also read the article by HSLDA on the other thread. That article explains that when Huckabee signed the harsher homeschooling laws, the laws were agreed upon by the hs representatives. State represetatives were pushing for much stricter laws, and the restrictions passed were a compromise of sorts.

    More stuff to think about.....
     
  4. Jackie

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    I understand that, but feel that is WRONG. We should be voting on who we feel will be the BEST candidate, NOT voting on a compromise who we feel will "beat Hillary".
     
  5. sixcloar

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    I'm not saying it's right, just that that's WHY Huckabee is being endorsed.
     
  6. Emma's#1fan

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    Exactly!
    After reading these articles, especially the two on the other thread, it does shed a new light as to why HSLDA is endorsing Huckabee.
    I agree 100%! The articles give something more to think about.
    ...and after all, isn't this what we want so we CAN make a wise choice!:D I am glad I came across them. Although I still have no idea who I am voting for, I at least have information from the horsers mouth.;)
    Patty
     
  7. Jackie

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    And you're right that we need to understand why HSLDA has done what it has. I just disagree with them on this issue. Again, not sure if I'll vote for Huckabee or not, but it will be because I think he's the BEST of the choices given. NOT because I'm afraid of Hillary.
     
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    Yeah, but I am afraid of Hillary (or what she will do to our country)! But, I know that God is in control and if she wins, He will still be in control.
     
  9. Jackie

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    Pam, that's probably a much better sumation of how I feel!
     
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    Man after reading these post and links (some not all of them) and hearing how Rush seems to really dislike Huck, I havej ust about changed my mind on voting for him. I think I am leaning now more towards Fred Thompson. I don't know anymroe thought.

    Aggie
     
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    I agree that we cannot vote out of fear. We just need to be informed and prayed up before entering the voting booth. I am not sure who I am voting for. I was all for Huckabee but I am now having second thoughts. I know I do not want Hillary to be president. I think that would be a disaster. However, God has used leaders that did not honor Him to bring about his Will. So, if God wills that Hillary is to be president there must be a reason. Of course, man has free will..not discounting that. Not saying the wrong person will not be elected. However, look to your Bible and see the leaders that were chosen and how God's will was done either through the ungodly or dispite the ungodly.
     
  12. Emma's#1fan

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    I wasn't to sure about Huckabee but after reading the other links on the other thread, it clears some things up. I still do not have an idea who I will vote for because it is still early on, but at least I have a better idea why Huckabee did what he did in Arkansas.
    Patty
     
  13. the sneaky mama

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    I've only read a few of the past posts. . .but I'll throw this out there. I can agree with voting for who the Lord wants me to vote for. But when it comes to down to two candidates, (assuming the person that I would want doesn't make it--which of course I don't know) I think voting for the lesser evil is very well what the Lord would intend me to do. Just bc you are voting "against" someone doesn't mean that's not how you feel led by the Lord. . .and neither do I think it's walking in fear. It's just a different lens with which to look at the same issue.
     
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    I recieved an email today from the Human Rights Campaign with some info about Huckabee I didn't know. Thought I'd pass it along. I don't know who I'll vote for, and I'm not trying to trash Huckabee or change anyone's mind about voting for him. I just figured this info would help us be more informed on this candidate. I left out all the links to get to the petition, but copied the rest of the email:

    Should a leading presidential candidate get away with ignoring the facts and going back on his word? Not on our watch.

    Last month, Republican presidential candidate Gov. Mike Huckabee stood by his absurd 1992 comments that AIDS patients should have been "isolated" (it was common knowledge in 1992 that AIDS couldn't be spread by casual contact).

    After a public outcry erupted, he agreed to meet with the mother of Ryan White, who died of AIDS in 1990. Now, more than a MONTH later, Huckabee is blatantly ignoring Ryan's mother, along with HRC and The AIDS Institute.

    If we back down, he gets off scot-free. Make sure Huckabee knows Americans won't accept empty promises - tell him to meet with Ryan's mother before Feb. 5th, the most important day of the presidential primary season
    In a 1992 questionnaire, Gov. Huckabee complained, "It is the first time in the history of civilization in which the carriers of a genuine plague have not been isolated from the general population..."

    Two years earlier, a courageous young man named Ryan White had succumbed to AIDS. Ryan, a hemophiliac who was barred from school and shunned by the community after being diagnosed at age 13, helped teach the world that AIDS cannot be transmitted through casual contact.

    It's hard to believe that 20 years later, we are faced with a presidential candidate who refuses to face both the scientific facts and the human toll of this disease.

    The Human Rights Campaign and The AIDS Institute last month offered to facilitate a meeting with Jeanne White-Ginder to discuss the discrimination experienced by her son. Huckabee agreed to meet with her, but despite receiving two lengthy letters, he's been dragging his feet for weeks.
    Ryan White became known to millions as the boy who fought to open hearts and minds while he battled a terrible disease.

    We must honor Ryan's memory by holding Gov. Huckabee accountable. We have come too far to be thrust back into an era of irrational fear, ignorance and discrimination.
     
  15. Jackie

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    I think we're really saying the same thing. I also will be willing to vote "for the lesser of two evils". Especially when, during the election, the guy you REALLY wanted to vote for has been knocked out. There's a good chance that the person I vote for in the Primary and the person I vote for as President won't be the same.

    But that's not what HSLDA is saying, at least not to me. There are others that HSLDA may very well believe in. They may even be more "in line" with HSLDA's values. But they seem not to be backing those candidates, not because of the candidate's beliefs or values, but BECAUSE of their (HSLDA's) fear of Hillary. And to me, THAT is wrong.
     
  16. the sneaky mama

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    Gosh. . .I don't know. Beating Hilary is a pretty powerful motivator to me! LOL


    Seriously though, I've actually spoken to her in real person and strongly feel that if she were to win our hsing freedoms would suffer. None of the other candidates in my view have quite the anti-school choice (and that includes hsing in her mind), "pro-child" position that she does. So if I feel like the Lord would want me to protect hsing, then voting against Hilary is not wrong. Does that make sense? But I do understand where you're coming from. ;-)
     
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    Is there a clapping smilie on here? because if there was I would put about 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,etc on this post!
     
  18. the sneaky mama

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    She took NYS which is not surprising, but I was disappointed all the same. McCain won the Republican primary here.


    Something funny and sad all at the same time? When dh and I went to vote, they had a stack of green cards and a stack of red cards. . .the red were Republicans and the green were Democrats. She automatically pulled out green cards for us, and when we told her we were Republicans--she took a double take, and then said, "You're the only Republicans who came to vote."
    The WHOLE auditorium was staring at us. . .which was funny.


    What's sad is that if that's true, it means that no on in my church went to vote last night. ;-(
     
  19. Deena

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    Ours is pretty much all mail voting now, which is easier!
     
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    Mail would take a massive effort in organization that I don't think NYC is capable of. You'd have to send it out in several languages--but with polling places, it's all in several languages but in one place.
     

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