Reporter Takes over Interview with Anti Homeschool PhD

It is because they keep mixing PARENTING SKILLS and EDUCATION CHOICE.

In his mind, he was not changing the subject... to him and those like him it is the SAME subject!

THAT is why they scare me, because they are begining to argue with Big Brother-ish arguments, that THEY know better than anyone how to raise children.

 

EXACTLY, Jen!!!

 

I agree with what you have written, but, to me, the two are difficult to separate...well, not parenting skills, per se, but just parenting and education.

When a child steps onto any public school property, the school takes over in the area of parental rights and for a significant portion of the day, the school parents the children enrolled there. (Who is watching the child? Who disciplines the child? Who is praising the child?) Even though I am certain many public school parents would disagree, this is how it is described in the laws and upheld in courts. So, the state is at least sharing in the parenting of public school students as it is, however the state does not have the same easy access to homeschooled children, which is where those who hold a more socialist viewpoint finds our freedom from the schools injudicious.

As a homeschooling parent, I personally cannot separate the two; they are intertwined within my lifestyle so I guess I am just as guilty of mixing the two.

 

THAT ROCKED! That had to be the BEST interview I have EVER seen.

 

Right, and I understand.
But when it gets under my skin is the times that the two have not relation. Such as;

When a kid is behaving badly and his parents are told that he is....
If he is in public school, nothing else happens...
If he is homeschooled.... OH! THAT is the problem....

I also take issue with the need for this schools to want to take over the parenting.

However, I also know there is a weird undercurrent of "off Handedness" going on in our society where parents are more and more likely to simply hand their kids over, because "They" (Meaning the government) probably knows what is best, more than I do."
:roll:

 

I just got a chance to listen to this....and all I can say is What a JERK, and way to go for that journalist! I can't believe that man had the nerve to not even imply but outright state that parents are dumb! Honestly what does he think teachers do? Teachers don't have all the answers, they rely on Teacher Manuals that HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS! The nerve of some people, but I'm sure glad that lady stood up for what she knows is right!

 

And, of course, those text books are written by arrogant PhD's (unlike many homeschool texts, which are written by "not-so-knowlegible" homeschool moms....), so let's (once again!) follow the dollars.....

(Dr. J. Wile excepted, lol!)

 

MY favorite part was when he said (as I praraphrase), "If you are able to homeschool your children, you should be able to get a job and pay for private school."

ROFL.. yeah.. ok...

 

By the way, if anybody emails him, he's just as much of an a$$ via email as on tv.

My (polite) email:

Dr. Bainbridge,

I watched with absolute shock at your stereotyping a group of people you have obviously spent zero time getting to know. We pulled our children out of a Christian private school this year to homeschool because they were being "socialized" by their peers (and I mean this in the most derogatory sense) and they were not allowed to progress at their own speed; meaning they were held up by other students who "didn't get it" and were therefore bored to tears.

My husband is a doctor and we can affort private schools. We choose to educate our own children so that they can be challenged to live up to their potential and not pick up the nasty habits of other children. I don't know whether we will also homeschool through highschool, but if we do, there are so many options for those that don't feel confident in teaching certain subjects. They can even do dual high school/college credit at the local college. By the way, universities recognize homeschoolers as better, more motivated students and actually court them.

You really need to do some research and actually spend some time with homeschoolers. I've never met a nicer group of people, and they don't look down their nose at others. Of course, they aren't very trusting of people they see as a potential threat, such as yourself.

Sincerely,
Jennifer Cameron


Here's his response (the last sentence has me so ticked off! But I am not responding to him...for now):

Ms. Jennifer Cameron

Perhaps your husband’s patients should just depend on their friends or family members for medical assistance?

I do not believe in home dentistry, home surgery, armature architecture/engineering or home schooling. Children have a right to equal protection under the law, including a free public or private education free especially if the parents are not qualified in to teach secondary school subjects.

Best regards,

Bill

William L. Bainbridge, Ph.D., FACFE
Distinguished Research Professor
SchoolMatch® Institute
UNIVERSITY OF DAYTON
1213 Garrison Drive
St. Augustine, FL 32092
Tel. 904-230-3001
FAX 904-287-1171
bainbridgefl@comcast.net

 

The absolute nerve of that man. Home medical care is hardly the same thing as home schooling. I think he is seriously misinformed. People like that though won't change their mind unless they can be provided with irrefutable evidence to the contrary of their own beliefs and sometimes not even then. Like they say ignorance is bliss - if he doesn't know about homeschooling he doesn't have to support it.

 

Wait a minute!

If I graduated from high school doesn't that mean that I EARNED my diploma? And if I EARNED my diploma, doesn't that mean that I mastered the information? And if I mastered the information, doesn't it stand to reason that I should be able to prove this by regurgitating said material? And if not, did I REALLY master it? Or not?

This really is a good question.
Because if you say that I could not possible retell that which I have mastered, then did I really master it? And if not, then how damning that is for the words High School Diploma?

And how well it seems to bring home the point of why I would not want my children wasting their time on a piece of paper that means nothing. If it means that after 12 years they would NOT be able to retell that which they SUPPOSEDLY mastered!


Therefore, if you want me to send my children to your school, then tell me that anyone who earns your degree would be qualified to retell said subjects.

Otherwise sir, I respectfully disagree with your assumption that it has any merit whatsoever.

Good day.

 

This is hilarious!

(Trade "Homeschooling" with "Homefeeding" and you will know how stupid all the questions that we normally get, sound to those of us who choose home as our schools)

Homefeeding Children:
Threat or Menace?
By Lydia McGrew
June 12, 2008

The recent tragic death from malnutrition of seven-year-old Johnny Marfan of Bensonville draws our attention to the growing trend toward so-called "homefeeding."

While the majority of the local children still receive their nutrition from state cafeterias or approved, registered private cafeterias, a growing minority of parents - hundreds by some estimates - are engaged in homefeeding, a practice in which children receive at least breakfast and dinner in their own homes as provided by their parents.

In accordance with law, the Marfans informed the state health department that they were homefeeding Johnny. But in this state, homefeeding is relatively unregulated, giving carte blanch to parents to feed their children virtually any food under the sun; meat, milk, cookies, butter, pie - anything goes.

Some states require parents to have a certified degree in nutrition or at least be monitored by an accredited nutritionist. But here, parents do not even have to fill out periodic reports detailing what they are feeding their children.

Opponents of homefeeding argue that parents like the Marfans used homefeeding as a cover for abuse and neglect, with terrible results. While this remains in question, we've seen nothing to disprove this.

Calista Nicole-Carson of the state Department of Cafeterias and Caloric Monitoring says, "I realize that there are conscientious parents who genuinely try to feed their children what they need. But they should have no objection to filling out the forms we are introducing, describing each of the meals they give."

That seems a reasonable step in safeguarding our most precious resource - our children. "Pro-active steps are necessary to insure we are protecting all children," says Nicole-Carson. "It is ridiculous not to monitor what all children are fed because of a misguided concern for 'privacy' or 'freedom,' and such lack of regulation allows children to slip fatally through the cracks.

Other critics are concerned about parents' lack of necessary qualifications. "Every year we make new nutritional discoveries," says Dr. Sue d'Panzoff of the University of Omasota. "Parents cannot possibly keep up with each breakthrough in nutritional science and give their children these benefits."


It's preposterous for us to leave such vital functions to amateurs who claim authority based on something as flimsy as parenthood, particularly in the realm of keeping pace with nutritional advances.

"Who knows what changes we may need to make next year to improve children's nutrition," asks d'Panzoff. "At a minimum, homefeeding programs must be carefully monitored in the domicile to make sure all the latest advances are represented."

Still others point out the social skills homefed children are missing. Ms. Nicole-Carson tells us, "During meals at the public cafeterias, these children watch educational videos about crucial subjects like the environment, sex, and the evils of capitalism. The food itself is culturally diversified, and each day the children are taught a different set of table manners from another culture around the world."

Homefeeders rely in large part on outmoded history in defending their decision to place their own children out of the mainstream.

"As recently as 1992, the majority of children in the United States were homefed," says Philip Flicka, of the right-wing Home Food Legal Defense Association. "Even when kids went to school, they were allowed to bring lunches packed by their moms." Allow child to be artisitc in his creations

Whether Mr. Flicka is right or not, it seems that homefeeding is here to stay, consequences be damned. But we cannot be too vigilant.

Homefeeders of good will should, as Ms. Nicole-Carson says, be entirely open to having their homes and programs monitored by qualified nutritionists for the good of our children.

Any small amount of time and privacy this costs parents will be more than repaid in lives saved. If the Marfans had been properly monitored, Johnny would still be alive.

There is nothing more valuable than the life and safety of a child, and for that reason, strictures on homefeeding must be tightened in this state.


hahahahahahahahaha!
I just love me some gooood political humor!

 

I am not a registered dietitian.
Are my children denied nutrition?

I am not a licensed cosmetologist.
Can I not cut my children's hair?

I am not a licensed psychotherapist.
Can I not discipline my children effectively without harming their soul?

If so, then why can I not retell that which I apparently MASTERED. wth my high school and college dregrees?

Because if you are telling me that I cannot possibly handle high school math, you sir, are telling me I did not actually earn my high school diploma, because there is no mastery, if you cannot retell it.

 

This is true! Actually Jenn I suppose that the next thing this man will tell us is that we need a degree in early childhood education before we can have children because we can't teach them to walk, eat, and talk without a degree qualifying us to do so!

 

I think my answer would be something like this:

Dear Bill, (and I would use "Bill" because he did in closing.)

Based on the answers you gave in the interview I was left with the impression that it is your opinion that the only person really qualified to teach a child is someone with a degree other than the child's parent, even if the parent has the same degree. Would that be a correct assessment?

Because you are a researcher, I expect that you had done comparative studies on the subject and have something more to present than simply an opinion based on your years of schooling. Where is your research?

 

Someone get some ice for this woman!

These are my arguments as well. The thing is not to be on the defensive with these types, go offensive. He is the researcher with the PhD, so make him prove his theory with real evidence, or else it will show how much of a researcher he really isn't.

 

I liked the "DISTINGUISHED" Research Professor!

So is he saying that all the colleges that actually are looking for hs'ed kids are wrong? It's obvious that he's totally unaware of any researach other than his own!

 

Here is his background:
http://www.schoolmatch.com/staff/bainbridge.htm

It kind of puts it into perspective. It is really rare to find anyone who has been a school superintendent and been in favor of homeschooling.

 

WOW!!! So he's basically a guy who is totally full of himself. That explains his comments about medicine and dentistry to Jen. He needs to tear down hs'ing to validate his existance, it seems to me. You would think that a DISTINGUISED researcher would be able to do the research into homeschooling.

 

AH! This just in from HSLDA! I guess our DISTINGUISHED researcher missed this information:

Woodruff Responds to “Jobless Homeschooler” Article

The October 16 online edition of The Republican Journal quoted School Administrative District 34 Superintendent Bruce Mailloux as saying, “My concern is that some home-school student can’t get a job for lack of skills… .” HSDLA attorney Scott Woodruff responded promptly and submitted a letter to the editor.

He pointed out that Mailloux’s concerns were unfounded, since 73% of homeschool students go to college, as opposed to 46% of other students, according to Dr. Brian D. Ray. Woodruff noted that this is not surprising since the average homeschooled 8th-grader scores the same on standardized tests as the average non-homeschooled 12th-grader, according to research conducted by Dr. Lawrence M. Rudner.

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Too bad he's too educated to know what us uneducated (or undereducated) poor, working people know!