s/o Do not resell curriculum

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  1. KrisRV

    KrisRV New Member

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    this is a funny thread all my books I ever bought were used a lot at the beginning were SOS and others on the list. I think a lot of people sell them use.
     
  2. JosieB

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    Sorry but is that legal? Seriously? If I buy a TV I can resale it, if I buy a house, a car, a book, a fan, a chair-all resalable. It's an object I bought and paid in full, it's mine to do with what I want.

    I would honestly venture to guess their 'user agreements' are probably illegal in most if not all states and a scare tactic to make more money. The CD/Computer program I see, but a book? That just doesn't sound like a legit policy to me.
     
  3. cricutmaster

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    Yes Calvert's stuff are books. The thing is if you are selling or giving it away to use as a complete set. It is useless without the manuals and answer keys. Calvert doesn't care if you sell the books because they didn't publish them, but they want people to buy the manuals and answer keys from them.

    Again I feel like if I purchased it, I can do what I please. It's not like I am copying each page and selling my own copies. They didn’t even want me to give the stuff away to this lady. I told them point blank, I have this stuff that I am done with. A family needs it, so If I want to gift it to them, then I will. They’re not going to tell me that I can’t gift it if someone really needs it.
     
  4. Jackie

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    Hmmm.... Maybe we need to shut down all public libraries, too. Think of all the money people are losing by letting people borrow instead of buy....
     
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  6. OpenMinded

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    Calvert doesn't sell the paper answer keys anymore unless you pay extra. They are all pdf's now if you order the grade sets. You have to pay a lot extra to get the answer keys in book form. It says that they did this in order for Calvert to be more green, but it also makes it impossible to resale without the answer keys b/c you have to be logged into your calvert account to view the pdf's and print them.
    I looked into Calvert a lot this year and this was one of the reasons that I chose not to go with them. I would have had to look up all the kid's answer keys online to grade. We would have even been eligible for one of their scholarships. I knew that you weren't suppose to resale and the no answer keys in print unless you pay for them really bothered me. Also, if you have the scholarship or financial aid, you can't get the 40% off of the in print answer keys. You have to pay full Calvert price for the print ones.
    I'm sure it will hinder reselling of their products in the future if you can't get answer keys when you buy it used.
     
  7. Embassy

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    But you do need the Rosetta Stone cd in your computer in order for it to work. I have the Rosetta Stone Mandarin and wanted to sell it, but I was surprised to find out that I couldn't. At least I could sell my Muzzy set.
     
  8. peanutsweet

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    well if you buy a music CD you can resell that or loan it out.
    what is the difference anyway, it's mine!
     
  9. Xx5Xy1

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    So, does that mean the DIVE stuff my mom just found for me at a curriculum sale is worthless? She only paid $20 so I doubt its brand new.
     
  10. cricutmaster

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    Yeah Openminded, they sure did change this year. That was a big issue with me too. Having to look up the answers is a pain. I remember the lady saying something about extra for print but can't remember how much. I think they just did that to keep people from selling their used stuff because they make such a big stink about it. I don’t think they were intentionally trying to be green at all.
     
  11. Jackie

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    Green is a good excuse, nothing more. And that's true for LOTS of companies, not just Calvert.
     
  12. OpenMinded

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    https://store.calvertschool.org/c-83-answer-keys.aspx

    For me to get printed answer keys if I would have went with them it would have been roughly an extra $156 on top of their regular grade enrollment. The digital answer keys are only so many sections available at a time. :(
     
  13. Actressdancer

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    Hmmm. Not true.

    I have Rosetta stone installed on two computers and the boys both work at the same time. Perhaps this is because I have the homeschool version?
     
  14. Actressdancer

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    Actually, there are laws in the works that will prohibit this. There are also laws in the works that will prohibit radio stations from playing music without paying a per-play royalty. If the laws pass, most radio stations will go out of business.

    As it stands right now, radio stations have a symbiotic relationship with record labels. The labels give the stations music, so the stations play the music, thereby promoting the artist and music free of charge. Then listeners go out and by the music or buy the concert tickets. It works for everyone. But the artists are pushing to elminate this system. Just like they are pushing to shut down CD/Movie resale shops for violating copywrite law.
     
  15. goodnsimple

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    I have a unit study that they ask you not to resell. Because, this is how she made her living, and as sales dropped with resale, then she had to go back to a "real" job. I respect that. I don't know how I feel for a textbook...which I buy all of mine used. But if they didn't requre the new edition (sometimes only a few months newer than the old edition) and overcharge for them...but the prof. don't earn enough and so they have to write the books...and require them. (I once bought a 3 required books...all by the prof. they were little 100 page paperbacks ...should have been called "notes" and paid 30$ apeice...and didn't use two of them.) I also once bought the edition before the required edition (publishing date 4 mo apart.) and price difference over 100$...and did fine. (there were 2 answers to questions I could not find in the book)
    But I get that if I were to write something, and people used it...I need to be paid for my time. The bible is very clear that we must pay people thier just wages for work that they do. The trouble is with the middle men...who actually makes the money?

    With art and music it is even more difficult. I don't see how the radio is going to work if they have to pay for the music...even pay per listen satillite radio is going to have trouble with that.
    New frontiers will have to be figured out with the technology. I have a cd I recieved as a gift that I cannot load onto my computer...I can play it...just not load it, I listen to my ipod almost exclusively...do I own the music? Or only in the one form allowed?

    I also have a nook. I know i don't really "own" the books...it is alot like "owning" property in Mexico eh? it is just a really really long term lease.
    I am guessing that many more people will self publish ebooks...and like neighborhood bookstores...now the publishing companies will be in trouble...but not for a long time, so they won't notice for a while.
     
  16. Actressdancer

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    I had a seven week class this semester. And we had seven books.

    Side note about the Nook. Did you hear the results of the study published this week that said that people who read on a digital device read significanly slower than if the same people read a paper book?

    As I would have assumed, the participants in the study also found reading a regular, old-fashioned book far more relaxing than reading a digital book. Which is quite a large reason why I feel the paper book world will not be replaced permanently. I already know people who have given up their Nook or Kindle and gone back to the library.
     
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  17. Jackie

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    YEAH!!! I'm glad to hear that! There was a book I wanted to read the kids, and the only copy of it available was on-line. We TRIED, we REALLY tried!!! But it was a long, dry read and the kids found it a bit boring (and I agreed!), plus I HATED reading it from the computer, so we gave up.
     
  18. ColoradoMom

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    June 14, 2010, 8:30 a.m. EDT · Recommend · Post:
    Rosetta Stone Announces Settlements with Ten Individuals for Copyright and Trademark Infringement
    Language Learning Company Educates Consumers and Lawmakers On Piracy and Counterfeit Products


    ARLINGTON, Va., Jun 14, 2010 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- Rosetta Stone Inc., a leading provider of technology-based language-learning solutions, announced today that the company has reached settlements in cases against ten individuals for copyright and trademark infringement. These individuals pirated software, including the unauthorized copying, downloading, sharing and selling of counterfeit Rosetta Stone(R) language learning software.

    They even published their names! Remember that guy that was offering free Rosetta Stone software last year - I wonder if he's on the list! :lol:

    Full Story Here
     
  19. TeacherMom

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    when did SOS become a not resaled item??? We have bought half our curric from resale in the past? They just have a so many times of restarting it thing before you need a new # to enter. They are very kind about it too!
    They update them quite often though so maybe that is part of it?

    is it just from this year? the resale prohibited thing?
     
  20. TeacherMom

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    K12 is a government run class via online teachher so I can see that, lol , home school trackker how would you resale that anyway haha its free, at least my level,
     

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