This is most definitely NOT the socializing I want my kids doing

Discussion in 'Homeschooling in the News' started by Shelley, Mar 23, 2012.

  1. Shelley

    Shelley New Member

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    http://houston.cbslocal.com/2012/03...ing-third-graders-having-oral-sex-under-desk/

    Sad thing here? I'm actually shocked they fired the teacher. I imagine the unions will be filing an appeal to get her back in the classroom.

    I just can't imagine where those kids learned that behavior. And can you imagine what the classroom is like where they figured they could do it and no one would notice?

    So glad I homeschool. So glad.
     
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  3. Jackie

    Jackie Active Member

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    My gut reaction is that the teacher wasn't adequately aware of what was going on, but that may not be so. Was it during classroom time? Indoor recess? I know that when we had indoor recess, there might not be a teacher IN the room, but one who roamed the halls and looked in. Even if it were during classroom time, she mgiht have been busy with reading group, or whatever. I can see her not being aware of what EVERY child is doing at any given moment. Plus, what's this crap about "counseling"? You're telling me the kids didn't know that this was inappropirate behavior? I'm sorry, even K's know you don't whip it out and let someone suck on it like that. GET REAL!!! I think these kids knew EXACTLY what they were doing. They needed to be held accountable, and the PARENTS needed to be held accountable.
     
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    The article doesn't have much detail, just enough to grab readers attention and start debates. Like Jackie said it could of happened during indoor recess or while the teacher was busy with another student or group. Who did notice it? If they counselled the (I'm guessing) willing participants, what about the class mates who witnessed the act?

    Third graders are about 8 years, is that right?
     
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    Wow....just wow. I am absolutely shocked at the level that our schools have sunken to. Granted, not all schools are like that, but that it would happen anywhere with two such young participants is just AWFUL! My son went to kindergarten in a public school, and a year later I am STILL learning of new and awful stuff that he witnessed, and that other kids did/ or in some cases did to him, or made him do. :(

    One child forced his fingers so that he was 'flipping the bird', another boy hit him on the butt in the restroom, while his pants were down... (that one I did know about, and the school handled it really well...but STILL). Where are the parents in all this? Kids that age should not have knowledge about oral sex, let alone be practicing it! And like someone else said, you KNOW that there were other kids who witnessed that, and now have all kinds of questions and thoughts going on in their heads that they should not have to deal with at an age where they are SO easy to influence!
     
  6. Shelley

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    I'm not sure what other state laws are, but I had to take law and ethics classes to get my certification. You would NOT have had any circumstance where the teacher could be out of the classroom. It was hammered into our heads that we were legally responsible for those kids, and we had to be watching them.

    If she were working with a group, she should've been aware that her attention was so diverted that she wasn't able to monitor properly. I learned early that you have your eyes on all the kids all the time. Period. Whatever teaching adjustments you had to make to accomplish that, you made. Again, I don't know how other states function in that regard, but it would land you in hot water in my state.

    As a fellow professional, I definitely hold the teacher accountable for her behavior. I also wonder about the parents and why they weren't mentioned. They need some serious intervention in those households.
     
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    Ouch! So scary! Those poor kids are sure living a life I don't wish on any child! I could definitely see it being difficult to keep your eye on 15-20 3rd graders. Even with my eye on them the whole time, if they were trying to be sneaky, I don't know that I'd be walking about the classroom peeking under the tables all day.
     
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    You have to mentally count your children everyday in the classroom. When I had 6 kids in my house everyday for daycare, I was CONSTANTLY mentally counting them to make sure I had all of them. So much so that I was counting in my sleep. I can't get angry at the teacher right now. I mean, nobody knows the circumstances of where they were in the day, and if kids want to sneak around and do something then that's what they will do. Was this act preplanned? Who knows.

    You must wonder what's going on at home if they both know about this and are performing those acts in school. I honestly didn't even know that 3rd graders were.....able...to do that? I mean...bah I dunnno know. Anyway, I think more than counseling needs to occur. Let's get family services in there to investigate. And people wonder why my kids are homeschooled. yikes.
     
  9. Jackie

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    Mentally counting to six and mentally counting to thirty is a big difference.
     
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    I know, that's why I can't put a whole lot of fault on the teacher. There is only so much a teacher of a huge class can do to keep everyone under control and where they are supposed to be.
     
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    That was exactly my first thought when I read this. How do they even know about it, and if they did, how are they capable of engaging in such acts at their age??
    Where is social services on this? Shouldnt they be all over the parents, finding out why the kids are behaving like "not kids"..
     
  12. Jackie

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    They're busy taking newborns away from ignorant parents who dare to question the medical buracracy.
     

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