Yet another reason to HS (sex & Kindergarten)

Discussion in 'Homeschooling in the News' started by Laja656, Sep 30, 2007.

  1. Laja656

    Laja656 New Member

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    I'm unable to paste a URL because I haven't been there long enough... so just piece all this together and HOPEFULLY it will take you to the news story...

    click2houston.
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    Disgusting. The state will never get my kids.

    We used to live in the Aldine district. Now we own property there and my step son goes to school in that district. It really doesn't shock me too much knowing the area. When we lived there Samantha was in K and she went to a private school.

    I get sick reading crap like this.
     
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    And for the record, as I've stated in another thread about a 5yo being punished as a criminal, I don't see the "perpetrator" as such. I can't accept that a 5 year old, even one who has done something wrong, is capable of grasping exactly what it was they did. This child has obviously learned this behavior somewhere and feels that it is normal to do this to another person. At 6, most kids are incapable of discerning the "do as I say, not as I do" concept.

    I think this "perpetrator" needs to be watched very very carefully. There may be all sorts of abuse going on here. And he may well, indeed, be the victim.

    That's because this isn't an issue for the law to deal with. IMO, of course.

    Before anyone throws tomatoes, I agree with his suspension. I think he needs to learn that his behavior was not acceptable. But again, I don't think he knew that (fully) when it happened.
     
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  6. JenniBear

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    I don't think that the perpetrator needed to be suspended from school. He is ONLY 5 years old!! I do think he should have been moved to another classroom, and be closely monitored from now on. I don't think he realized the consequences for his behavior, but I DO think his family needs to be investigated, thoroughly and NOW.
     
  7. BeckyB

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    Sadly, suspending the perpetrator from school probably only means more time for that child to be at home ... and abused :(

    I feel horrible for both boys ... five is such a very young age ...
     
  8. Kellie

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    I agree that little boy has been sexually abused. Now there is 2 victims affected by the original
    perpetrator.

    It's so sad and makes me sick to my stomach.

    Sadly it seems more and more children are affected by sexual abuse this day and age.
     
  9. Jackie

    Jackie Active Member

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    I agree that the child should not face criminal charges. But the primary concern needs to be for the OTHER children, whether in this school or another school. Yes, I understand the victim's dad not wanting the perpetrator in the same school as his son. I would, too. But it's also not right to just transfer him to a different school and pass the problem on to unsuspecting folks. The boy needs real help. He's probably the victim of abuse; children don't learn such behaviors on their own! And he needs real help, rather than punishment.
     
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    that is so scarey.. I think the boy does need help big time, but check is family out they need help too, he learned it from someone, or he's been abused himself.. punishing him for something he did and don't understand will not solve the problem he needs to understand that it isn't right and why? First and most they need to check out his home live and arrest some other people that are old enough to know better. then help the young man..sending him to another school will not solve the problem.
     
  11. MonkeyMamma

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    Absolutely.
     
  12. sevenwhiskers

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    :(

    yeah it's prolly obvious from the other thread that i don't hold with kids this young being 'charged' with crimes or such, so i won't get into that again..

    but even the 'perpetrator' thing bothers me - this is a 5 year old kid, different terminology needs to be used...

    it's quite possible that the child who initiated it is a victim of some type of sexual abuse himself... or, it could be something different.. (he may have seen -- he shouldn't have, but may have -- something on television/movie/etc that he was copying, might have been told of this type of thing by an older kid/sibling/something, etc...it's impossible to know until they investigate and find out... )

    they certainly need to investigate and address this regardless of the 'hows' and 'whys' though...
     
  13. MonkeyMamma

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    I know this kid was only 5 but honestly if some kid did that to mine I wouldn't care how old the kid was. I'd be pissed and demanding something be done. I would never want that child anywhere near mine ever again. That may be harsh but that is how I feel. I don't think I could see past the age if my child was violated.
     
  14. sevenwhiskers

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    oh don't get me wrong - if this was my child this had happened to, i'd be angry and all sorts of other emotions, i sure know that... and i would definitely want actions taken... but what i would want would be for the 'authorities' to find out why this happened and help that child as well....

    i just can't see being able to hold a 5 year old totally responsible for something like that... i mean...five... my stepdaughter at 5 believed that the people on tv lived inside that box and woke up when you turned it on (telling her differently had no effect, she'd argue with you until she was blue in the face about it)....she believed that aliens lived on the moon and they came down in the summer to play at the beach and turned into jellyfish..... they barely know the difference between what is real and what isn't at that age, y'know?... this child may have had absolutely no idea that what he was doing was wrong...how do you put the same kind of accountability/responsibility/etc onto a child of that little age that you (speaking generic yous here) would someone much older and more able to understand?
     
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    I think it is so sad that they keep referring to one boy as the victim and the other as the perpetrator. Both of those boys are victims.
     
  17. Jackie

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    Yes, I agree that they were both victims. But what word you use to distinguish them? PERPETRATOR was the only one I could come up with.
     
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    That was why I used the word, too, to show which child I was talking about. Sadly, they both are victims. :(
     
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    What was the 'act'? 'Act' is a generic word. I also didn't read where the 'victim' cried out for help. This 'aggressor' might have been doing something not a horrendous as we're all seeing in our minds, based on how this article reads. Young kids sometimes do things to themselves without realizing it's inappropriate or being shown how. I used to have to scold Jeannie for something she'd do absentmindedly, and even now once in a great while I still have to say something. It wasn't a terrible thing, just something that could be seriously misconstrued. And certainly, no one here showed her how! If I'm not mistaken, one of the teachers at atoz recently posted that their kid also did something inappropriate- without being shown how. I'd like to see more facts from the story.
     
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    What I want to know is if anyone has investigates this kid's parents?! It sounds like the schools are keeping this all "in house" but why haven't the kid's parents being checked out? He had to learn this behavior from somewhere!!!!!!!!
     
  21. chickenlittle

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    Charges being placed upon a five year old would merely continue the cycle.

    Instead, the young boy's homelife should be investigated: what caused this highly sexualised behaviour? It would most likely be a matter of parenting and the boy may need to be removed from the situation and taught appropriate behaviour.

    It just makes me sad :(
     

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