Again in California: Home school parents must have teaching credential

Discussion in 'Homeschooling in the News' started by *Angie*, Mar 6, 2008.

  1. JenniferErix

    JenniferErix New Member

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    Preachin' to the choir, Jackie, I know.

    I just watch people.

    And I know that yesterday, no one here was running to the cops to report "All those un-regulated homeschooled kids" who run around busting car windows at night, or all those un-regulated homeschooled kids who cannot get jobs because they never learned to read..

    But suddenly (Because most people only hear sound bytes and not the actual information (Because they have public school research skills) they will suddenly be "Concerned" about these "poor kids who are being denied a fair chance at a full education". Or, sudden;y homeschooled kids are on their radar because they are getting away with something that they don't get to do.

    I get a lot of that last one....

    Ugh!
    Just coming here to be with like-minded folks.

    Just hoping the "Furver" dies down before some "Busy Body" decides we need to "Investigate" what the heck "Those people" are doing with their kids all day.
     
  2. Emma's#1fan

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    This problem was in all our newspapers. My sister was watching the news this morning and this was also one of the topics discussed. Isn't it interesting how so many people are now experts on homechooling?!:mad:
     
  3. TeacherMom

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    Well here in Ca we are to keep attendance thats it for private schools, but I keep the rest of a lot of what we do and all that, for several years... and Home school tracker is helping with that, plus SOS as well!
    I am hoping that this will help things move for the better, over all with the problems our schools have here in CA if the fear of homeschoolers having to attend non existant schools doesn't scare them into changing things something has to!
     
  4. Emma's#1fan

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    Right down the hill, a few schools were closed. Now some schools have 40 students to a class.:eek: We have an elementary school that was built a few years ago and it is still standing empty to this day. The state had money to build it but not enough to open it.:| Yet, as of now, they are building another high school. It is huge. I guess it is already considered "full" once the students from the other high schools are transfered over.:? What a mess!
     
  5. TeacherMom

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    They took two schools to put into one high school in my city, there are three jr highs, and who knows how many grade schools but only one high school... and now one district is getting upset because an anex of our city is transfering students cross boundaries to get into thier schools because ours are full.. no wonder so many people are in home school groups here, we have waiting lists on one of our groups in my county, it is 100 people long as of a few years ago, now I came in a back door to a smaller group and my dds co op class today had 20 students, for an etiquite class!
    High level of home schoolers in my county, most are connected to hslda.
     
  6. Emma's#1fan

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    The very same thing happened here. We were busing students to the other district.
    Today my sister told me that the charter she is part of has cut out all field trips and extras for the rest of the school year because of cuts from the state.
     
  7. TeacherMom

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    Well at least they will have to take all the hundres of thousands into account, litterally before they make any rash discisions over all the state... What a riot, again litterally, it would be!
     
  8. Emma's#1fan

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    "Literally" is indeed the word!!!:lol: :lol:
    200,000 students and their parents! This will be interesting to see.
     
  9. dawninns

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  10. Emma's#1fan

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    Even if this shouldn't or couldn't be done, it WAS done. I think everybody is in agreement that the judges were out of line. This is why there is such an uproar. It wasn't warrented, yet the Appellate Court felt they had a right. Now hopefully, this can be remedied as simply as possible.
     
  11. Lehrerin Mutti

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    Hi all! I am a HSLDA member and I have been sent the email link from HSLDA to sign the petition, but my daughter made a good point. After reading the petition, and the form for signing, I have to ask myself, do I really want all of my personal contact information out there on the World Wide Web for anyone to view? I would like to sign, even though I am not from CA, and would like to show my support for the right of home schoolers everywhere to home school. I just do not want my personal contact information available to everyone on the World Wide Webb.(I have seen petitions like these on the internet before, with very personal information available to anyone.) Why do they need all of the personal contact info? Why can we not simply sign a paper petition w/o giving all of our personal info?

    On another note of this issue on government regulation and oversight of home schools and private schools. I to believe that the public school system can't handle the responsibilities they already have, and can't or should NOT be responsible for overseeing the needs of private and home schoolers. So let me get this straight. They want to override the authority and responsibility of parents to govern the education of their children? Like parents can not be responsible enough to provide a decent education for their children w/o being overlooked or governed by the public schools?

    As responsible parents, WE are providing not only for our children's education K-12th grade, but WE are and HAVE provided a savings plan for them to pay for college, as well as the support to plan for, and prepare for entrance requirements to apply & get IN to the college of their choice. Are the public schools prepared to do the same?

    I agree with the posters who pointed out that it is NOT our home schooled students out on the streets vandalizing, breaking the law, endangering citizens, but the many lost and overlooked kids WITHIN the over-stretched public school system. I also agree that the public school system should spend their time, money and effort on FIXING their own education system, BEFORE they waste their time, energy & expense trying to override, oversee and regulate the education of hundreds of thousands of private and home schooled students nationwide.

    I do see this as the way the government is headed though. Government is getting bigger and with all the technology at IT's hands now, IT sees IT's capability to oversee and "govern" a power within IT's grasp. That kind of power is too great for IT to resist.

    Public schools have become factories for the cheapest "education" for mass production. They spend more money now on installing security systems, locked doors, camera surveillance, bullet proof windows(where there are windows), dog tags(ID's worn around students necks) with microchip identification, and they are left with only enough money for a Walmart curriculum. How is an education in a penitentiary better than one in a private or home school?

    Haven't the Public Schools enough problems of their own to deal with as it is w/o having to ask for more?
     
  12. Heather

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    I guess my question to all of this is why hasn't HSLD or other groups challenged the Calf. Law of home schooling before it got so out of hand. Once again I am a HSLD member and got the same email notification like so many others did. The way I read the law in Calf. home schooling your children there is basically a loop hole. Why wasn't something done before this?
     
  13. TeacherMom

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    well actually its not out of hand, its just worded in a funny way. and the media is doing its thing of blowing things away and freaking out people hehe
     
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  15. Emma's#1fan

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    Nobody wanted to mess with "good enough". Dealing with legilation will also bring along more rules and regulations. People feel that homeschooling through a loophole is better than possibly not being able to homeschool at all. Now, by going to the Supreme Court, this just may happen. Either the case will not be overturned, the documents will not be unpublished, or the exact opposite may happen. People, including HSLDA, did not want to bring this on any sooner than necessary. If we tried to challenge the law before this case came about, the courts might have told us years earlier that we couldn't homeschool. This is why HSLDA wants to unpublish to report before actually dealing with legislation. This is also why some California homeschoolers do not want the governor to create new laws or regulations because they might be more difficult than what we were dealing with prior to this case. Now, if the Supreme Court shoots down the request, then perhaps it will be time for the governor to intervene but some people would like it to go back to the way it was. Homeschooling through a loophole has its benefits and, as we see now, its downfall.
     
  16. Dianna

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    They couldn't keep up with a homeschool mom if they tried. That's why they don't homeschool.:eek: Sorry, was that mean? :twisted: LOL!

    Blessings,
    Dianna


     

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