I THINK everyone knows that LDS does not condone polygamy. Didn't this group claim to be LDS? I think that's the only reason it's in the conversations right now.
The FLDS group is a splinter group from the LDS church. They are no longer affiliated with the LDS church. I think the LDS name comes into the picture simply because it is part of the group's name. There are many people who still associate the LDS church with polygamy, especially in areas where Mormonism is not prominent. I know that Mormons do not practice polygamy, but I only understand the very basics of the religion. I don't think that anyone here is trying to blame the LDS church. We just want to know that these children are safe and well-cared for.
Sorry, I should have checked back after I posted that. The reason I don't post to these type of topics usually is that you can't tell what kind of emotion the person is using and a lot of things come off as mean when they're not meant to. I only wrote what I did because someone posted on this thread that she knows a guy who is LDS who practices Polygamy, and I just wanted to clarify that no one in the LDS church practices polygamy. I guess I should have added a smiley so it didn't come off so mean-reading! Oh well, here's a couple to make up for it! :angel::angel::angel: Amy
Well, Amy, I am thankful for you clarifiying these issues. I have no clue what the diff is between FLDS and LDS or who condones polygamy or who does not. I think we hear so much about religions or beliefs we don't understand or are familiar with that it is easy to get confused. I think it is great you gave some insight. Thanks!
I do not believe in Poligomy and neither does my very good friend who happens to be LDS. She is as discusted about this situation as the rest of us are. While I don't agree with LDS teachings I KNOW they are not a part of this mess. And I feel sorry for the LDS church right now because they are probably getting the blame in this. I know my friend is. She is having to defend her church.
It's on Nancy Grace again tonight, they found 25 more teenagers, said the number went up to 460 something. So, sad.
How can it be Biblically wrong when it is ALL OVER the Bible? I don't think it's right to force yourself (sexually) on anyone, though.
I know what they're going through. Some lady drove her car into a crowd of people (I forget when and where), and another cult type person that got caught---both had been to our church in the past, but were NOT now, and what they did had nothing to do with our religion, but we were really having to defend ourselves, to the point they thought our church was a cult. It's been around long enough for it not to be that, and of course it isn't! Anyway, I'm sorry LDS people are having to go through this right now---the generalizations people make, etc.! I feel for you!
Ok my nit pick lol.... Why cant the splinter religions from the LDS church come up with a totally unique and different name so LDS church members can once and for all overcome this polygamy crud. I almost wish I werent even LDS right now so people dont mistakingly think I'm a polygamist and/or abuse or brainwash my kids. Ok, that was off topic lol.
From what I read (and of course, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong!!!), mainstream LDS gave up polygamy back when they thought that would help Utah become a state. There were several splinter groups at that time that refused, based on the fact that the "revelation" about polygamy had been given, and God doesn't change. So they consider THEMSELVES the "true" LDS, and the mainstream LDS are no better off in their eyes than those of us who are not LDS. As such, they probably think the mainstream LDS are the ones that need to change their name! As for me, living in Ohio I know very little about LDS. However, the one thing that has ALWAYS stood out was their strong family ties and moral character.
Hmmm. You may have something there. I wonder how my name change suggestion would go with the LDS church LOL.
Anything that fuels a sin is a sin in itself. It fuels jealousy. No matter what anyone says, how can someone not become jealous of their husband having other wives? It's impossible!!! We are too human. That in itself is a sin, because it fuels other sins. Just because something is IN the Bible, doesn't mean it's right. Those situations are in the Bible so we can learn from their mistakes.
Sam, that is what Nancy Grace said how could they find more? I never listen to it Did listen to our local news this am and they brought 40 of the children here to our local shelter, are going to ask public for help in a few days, but want to wait to see what they need first
Sort of.. They were lying about their ages. A medical doctor can tell (within reason, of course) if someone is lying about their age, because of bones and so forth. Which is how an M.E. can guesstimate a corpses age. The local paper reported that they confessed their ages after a period of time. The fact that the judge have to make a special order that the minor mothers be placed with their infants and that the minor pregnant mothers be placed with those girls is a bit damning to the whole case. These were not immaculate conceptions. I think the reason they took all of the kids is because they live in a communal setting, where everything is relatively shared. (I used to live that way in the 70's) And when you share a kitchen with someone, it can be assumed that you share germs with them, and you share lifestyles as well. Ergo: all the children were "At Risk". This is not the same as taking custody of all the children (Who live in different homes on different sides of town) who attend a church that is on any street in town, just because one parishioner beat his kid. Nope, this was an issue of all these people living in the same place under the same rules (In regards to this particular practice). It was not that they were religious. It was not that they were homeschooled. It was that they were forcing (Even if by coercion) young VERY young girls to lay with old men. The fact that they had to make special considerations for the pregnant teens and the teen mothers... just nails it.
Ok understood on the "found more teen thing" I had pictured in my mind wild teens in the Texas pararie running about hiding among the bushes while the CPS tracked them down Sam
Jackie, I agree with you about the name thing, I was thrilled when the RLDS church changed their name! However since there are 13 million of us and only a couple hundred of the FLDS church I really think that they should be the ones to change their names. However, after all the legal stuff this might be a moot point. Amy
Now here is more on the subject. (another lady on a different board posted this) http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=89979940&ft=1&f=1001
