6 yr old has diarrhea during testing? Too bad.

How can these particular adults claim to care about kids?!

http://www.ky3.com/news/ky3-test-tu...ck=rss&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

 

"...the superintendent says the reason the teacher was sticking so closely to MAP testing guidelines, even for a kindergartner, is because she was trying to simulate the stringent rules to prepare students for what's to come."

Teaching the test starts early.

 

That makes me very sad.

 

That is just obscene. I can't imagine handing a child who has soiled herself a trash bag and telling her to wrap herself up and sit in her mess until the fake testing time was up and then another twenty minutes until her mom could get there.

I can only hope the parents have enough sense to pull her from that school.

 

It does start early and it is sad.

 

"Parent is upset after kindergartener is emarassed in class." Understantment of the century! If it were my kid the headline would say, "Extremely irate parents see red after kindergartener is embarassed in class and threaten to sue until the cows come home". I can't believe that...well I can..but...oh geez. That poor little kid. You just know her peers are going to remember that and she could possibly have emotional damage from it at some point.

 

Wow. It wasn't even the official test, just a simulation. That poor little girl! And coming from a small town, I can just about tell you that if the parents of that girl would have been professionals or dressed in designer clothes, their daughter would have been allowed to go to the bathroom. I'm guessing the teacher already devalued that girl before that incident occurred.

 

I can believe it. When I was in middle school, in my math class, I felt really sick to my stomach. It was my last class of the day. I asked to be excused to go to the bathroom and I said I was going to puke. My teacher refused. Well, I got through the end of class, I don't know how. Mom picked me up and knew something was up. As soon as I hit the house, I puked big time. My mom was livid when I told her how sick I was and the teacher wouldn't let me go to the bathroom or the nurse. She took it to the principal who, in turn, talked to the teacher. His excuse? Sometimes kids lie to get out of class. My mom asked if I was one of those types of students. Teacher replied "No. She's one of my best students!' She said 'Then why didn't you believe her? You are lucky she didn't do in your classroom what she did at home-you would have had a mess to clean up!'

This is the same teacher would absolutly would NOT move me to a different math class even though I was FAILING in his class. He said I was one of the only ones who didn't disrupt the class and I was a "joy" to teach. But I was failing! My parents went round and round with the school over this, and could not get me the help I needed because this teacher refused to transfer me out of his class. Nice.......

The following year I did independent study. I went back to school for Sophmore and Junior years, then took GED. The school was not helping me one bit so my parents pulled me and I got on with my life.

 

Ok...the not letting her go to the bathroom was bad, but I agree with the father-- making her sit in it for forty or more minutes was criminal.

 

Yuck, I can't believe they didn't at least send her to the office or school nurse so she could get cleaned up and avoid the embarrassment in front of classmates. Schools make the tests into major events because they get money based on results. Also, I know a new teacher in an inner city school who was fired because she didn't have a high enough passing rate in her classroom, despite increasing the passing rate from the year before by a huge margin. It's NOT about the kids and their education!

Once my son felt sick, told the teacher, and asked to go to the restroom. The teacher told him the class was almost over and he could go in a minute. He couldn't wait any more so he ran to the door and threw up in the entry. Right then the class ended and everyone had to jump over the mess. I thought, "Oh well, you did warn her!"

 

It breaks my heart. It is criminal what they did to that child. The Dad is right. I see injustices all the time because i work for a school district. The worst part is the children aren't treated as people as much as they are treated as a heard. God forbid one of them gets out of line. Its not like you go after the one, they are made a spectical of. Fundamentally I think its wrong to make a specital of any child. If the parents don't want to press charges then maybe someone else should. JMO

 

I agree with all of you and with what the dad said about the consequences if parents sent a child to school in that condition. I also feel for the other kids in the classroom.

 

So sad! I would be asking for some heads to roll for sure!

 

It occurs to me to say that 1) Teachers can't leave their classes unsupervised, especially during a test. 2) If the TEACHER had diarrhea, I wonder how fast SHE would have gotten herself to the restroom. 3) If SHE couldn't make it, would SHE have sat in it, stinking and miserable, wearing a trash bag, in front of the class for that long???

 

Well, I honestly can see telling her to "wait". Or even asking if it could wait, and the child being to timid to stay no. It really is a judgement call, and the teacher really messed up on that one!

HOWEVER, forcing the child to sit in it is an entirely different matter. There is NO EXCUSE for that!!!

But just whose job is it to clean her up? And I'm really NOT excusing anyone, but am really curious! The teacher has a whole classroom of kids, probably without an aide, so the chances of her being able to deal with it aren't all that good. I can't see the secretary doing it, nor the principal. Plus, because the child is a mess and needs to be stripped down, you'd need two people to do it (same sex as the child) so there is no question of sexual abuse. The person who, in my mind, would be the school nurse, but very few schools have a nurse anymore, or if they do, she rotates between many schools and isn't always there. And what exactly do you change the child into? I doubt there's anything in the way of clean clothes for her to wear, even temporarily.

Again, I'm not excusing the school, but just trying to be practical!

 

Our local ps is a preK-8th grade building. They have extra PE uniforms hanging around for such a time as this. I think if I was the teacher, I would have been on the intercom immediately with the office to send someone to sit with my class so I could take her to the restroom and figure something out. If nothing else, she could have stripped down in a stall and been handed warm soapy paper towels to clean up with as she waited for her mom.

 

This is what I used to do with my PreKers who had accidents. I was fortunate enough to have an assistant so that I could leave the room (otherwise I would have had to wait for someone from the office to come down). When it was more than just a "wet" accident, we would call the parents to come bring the child clean clothes. I would then take the child into the private restroom in the office and have them go in and take their clothes off while I waited outside. I would hand them baby wipes through the cracked door and let them do the best they could. We always had some kind of extra clothes in the office from lost and found, etc that they could put on (even if they didn't fit great, at least they were clean).

Usually, the parents would arrive before the child was finished changing and would take over from there. If not, the child was allowed to sit in the office and wait.

It is sometimes a hard call as to when a child REALLY needs to go to the restroom and when they are just wanting to get out of doing something. If the little girl didn't say it was an emergency, the teacher may not have realized it was that serious. Kind of like going on a car trip with kids. You have them go before you leave the house and five minutes into the drive they say they have to go again. If they don't tell me it's an emergency, I tell them they'll have to wait. I don't completely fault the teacher for the child having an accident. It was what she did afterward that is the problem.

I would not have taken this well if it were my child!

 

How do these things even happen? As a human being, a TEACHER, you let a little girl sit in soiled pants in FRONT OF THE ENTIRE PEER GROUP!! That's one she wont live down easily.
I know that sometimes you ask a child to wait, and obviously you cannot gauge how badly she really needs to go. But once the accident happened, they should have done something!

My little one will sometimes say he needs to go "RIGHT THIS MINUTE" simply to get out of the cart at walmart....My easy test is to ask him sth about his favorite superheroes or sth....and if he acts interested, or if he suddenly wants to go to the toy aisle, then I know its not that urgent...other times he will not care about Superman, and insist on the restroom, so I know he means business.

Its called Knowing How To Deal With Kids...didn't that teacher get the memo?

 

It's easy to Know How to Deal with Kids when they're your kids that you're with 24/7. But when you've got thirty of them for a relatively short time, it's not so easy. Again, I'm not excusing. I can see the "accident" happening, and can understand that, but there is NO EXCUSE for making her sit there in it.