That's right. It's called doing the final walkthrough. I was a bus driver. In training they showed us real video footage (bus's have cameras) of kids getting left behind. The camera shuts off after a minute or so, but it's really awful. Any bus driver who cares will do their post-trip the way they are supposed to, regardless of the short amount of time it takes. If they check nothign else at least make sure everyone is off the bus. I hear now they have alarms that go off in the bus if a sensor in the back isn't tripped by someone walking back there after the bus is turned off.
One of my five year old twins fell asleep on the way home, on the school bus. They are NOT allowed to talk on the school bus, so a five year old will fall asleep. He fell off the seat and cut his head. When the bus arrived, the driver was miffed and said, "He fell off the seat, because he wouldn't stay awake." In a tone that suggested the child did something wrong. I replied, "Um, maybe you should not expect a 5 year old, who has been in school for 7 hours to stay awake on a hot bus that vibrates, when you won't let him speak!" "And how DARE you get MAD at him for it!" I removed them from school. For this as well as MANY other reasons. They will never get my kids again!
Yay for your sis! This doesn't surprise me however. The sad fact is that nothing goverment schools do surprises me anymore.
I am glad your sister stood up! Wow...I can't believe that. School are getting more and more like prisons everyday. Prisons are getting more like resorts everyday. lol. What is going on? Those poor kids. I am so glad I have homeschooled this long. I am just praying the Lord continues to allow it.
I just can't believe with all the taxes we pay that students have to provide their own supplies. So I pay for other children to attend the public schools and pay for my own childrens education and they can't even privide eating utensils. Great.
The supplies thing is not even the end of it. Last year, my 5 year old kindergarteners brought home THREE (3) Fundraisers EACH, the SECOND week of school! If we did not participate we had to PAY $40 FOR EACH FUNDRAISER TO "OPT OUT". (To pay for all the stuff under "No child left behind") A free education no longer exists. I joke (Sort of) with family that we homeschool because we are not rich enough to let our kids go to public school.
I used to send all the fundraising crap back to the school unopened. Samantha did one fundraiser a year for dance and it helped us pay for competitions. I fugured I already pay school taxws I'm not gonna ask my neighbor's to buy a bunch of crap so my dd can get a rinky dink little crappy toy that will break in a week. The prizes always suck.
One more thing... Near our home is a real prison. Complete with "DONT PICK UP HITCHHIKERS" signs along the road.... Anyway, not long ago, while driving to a relatives home, we noticed a new building off the road. It was large and at first, I thought they may be making a new mall, because it was so far off the road. Jack said, "Oh! Their just adding on to the prison." Then, we got closer and saw the sign, "New Highschool coming soon!" AAAHHHKKKK!!!!
Oh, well, great site they chose! Hey, where do I sign my kid up to go to school right next to a prison?!!! I can't believe they allowed that!
I remember one year, Toni brought home a fund raiser from elementary. All the money was supposed to go towards a new play ground for the children. Well, it has been at least 10 years since and we are still waiting to see a new play area go in. You would think that somewhere along the line the school would have managed to install a new play ground for the children. I understand that things come up and a school has hundrends to thousands of students to work with, but with the amount of taxes Californians pay, well lets just say that something is wrong with the system. Somewhere along the way something has happened and it only continues to get worse and worse. We are always hearing about how California is giving more money to the school system and yet today I read in the paper that California has a 20% drop out rate for teachers because they are not getting paid enough and they are tired of working under the conditions of to many students and to small a class, cruel students, and an unattentive principle. I don't think there is enough money in the world to pull our school system out of the gutter. I wish I could remember what I read or where I heard it but it was said that California is ranked at 47 when it comes to math and reading. That is horrible! Patty
Yes, the list for entering school is something. JenniferE I agree we can't afford to send our children to ps anymore. between fund raiser and all the stuff they need to get in.. So SAD.
I agree with the lists and fundraisers. I wanted to add, at least in the school the kids were in, I was PTO Treasurer, it was the PTO at this school who did the fundraising. So I knew where the funds went. We did fence in the playground, we did buy art and craft supplies, we bought play ground equipment. We had a end of the school year fun day carnival for the students with carnival games and moonwalks. The fundraisers we did, the monies we recieved were redirected back to the kids. I don't know about other schools. I just know what we did, because I wrote the checks and did the budgeting. Money wise, it makes sense why they chose that location for a school. If Ihad no choice but to send my kid to school, we would be moving out of that district ASAP! I did annoy me when I had to pay an annual registration fee of $50 per child. Plus our list included a fee for teachers to take pictures and develop those pictures. We also had to provide 2 disposable cameras per child. Now, I do have to say that some of the projects that came home with those pictures were really cute.
Yes, you CAN get a "free" education in this country! But you have to be on welfare to do it. All those supplies your children bring in at the lower levels are put into the teacher's cabinet. And they are passed out as needed. That means the kids on welfare that don't bring in the supplies are given the stuff of the kids that do. My dss's had to pay a "supply fee". But when DH was a single dad on welfare, they didn't. DH doesn't pass out text books for his algebra students to take home. First of all, they won't bring their book to class. second, he doesn't have enough books for all his students. So he passes them out each day they're going to use them and collects them at the end of the period. Any homework is either done in class, or he sends home worksheets.
Don't get me started on having to travel three times to the county seat to get copies of my kids SS cards, for them to be allowed to be registered in school, only to find out that if they were illegal aliens that the school was LEGALLY BOUND to NOT deny them entrance, and could NOT require THOSE folks to show the same papers. In their eyes, there is NO BENEFIT to becoming a US citizen. Our country has already been defeated by the invisible Trojan Horse of "Denial".
I learned here, in Illinois... don't know if it was passed, however; they were contemplating ALLOWING illegal aliens the rights to a state driver's license. While *I*personally feel better knowing someone does have a license and insurance to drive, you are absolutely rigth! What benefit is there, when you are getting everything handed to you anyway?
You know, I hear good meaning people all the time, repeat things about illegal aliens... that ring very similar to what some battered women sound like when defending their abusive spouse.... "Well, I know it is wrong, but if it keeps them from hitting us today, I guess it would be ok....." Such short sightedness, abounds! The cycle has gotten out of hand, so much so, that we will cross any line in the sand, from exhaustion, just to make it stop. But it never does. You can give a mouse a cookie...... A driver's license is the ONLY thing needed to VOTE in many districts..... *Because the assumption is, if you have a driver's license for an address in the district, you MUST be a citizen, right? (Sarcasim) THINK.... A driver's license has NEVER meant that someone is a good driver. But they are banking on us being that gullible. It only proves you learned how to pass the test. Driver's licenses for illegal aliens makes no sense. No matter how much denial we want to slather over it. But before anyone thinks I care to bash one race, I will say this.... Make the alien registration process EASIER and CHEAPER. Make it NOT WORTHWHILE to come here illegaly. Make it easy to get registered. Why? Because federal money will follow those people who are counted! Which means more money for your county hospitals, emergency services and schools! THAT is why most people have a problem with it. Fix immigration and illegal aliens will simply stop treking the dessert. I mean, if it is easy, why cross the desert?
AGREE! 100% I knew a lady from Canada who met someone online who lived in Arizona, I believe it took her close to 2 years and several thousands of dollars to do things properly. That is just crazy! Even then, there are frequent check-ups and things that she or her children cannot do for many until the after move paper work is complete.
Exactly! I speak from experience as I have three relatives, here legally after years of turmoil, waiting and MONEY MONEY MONEY. But if you want one more bit of truth.... You know that popular saying that "Americans are not willing to do the jobs that illegal aliens do, for the wages they get?" Do you know WHY? Because these people make LESS than MINIMUM WAGE. And as long as you call them "Migrant Workers" you can get around the old Minimum Wage requirement. This has been going on since the Great Depression (Remember Grapes of Wrath??) and may never end as long as we buy into the bullcrap about not willing to do the jobs. That's right! Both Democrat and Republican politicians feed off the lobbyist money syphoned into congress by the big corporations that KNOW that Fred and Jim Bob would do the same work. They just know that Fred and Jim Bob would require MINIMUM WAGE. AS long as you call them "Migrant Workers" you do NOT have to pay Minimum wage. So scoff the next time you hear that tired old incorrect addage that Americans are not willing to do the same work. It is NOT true. Our children cannot start their own lawn care service, here. I cannot get a side job cleaning offices, my sister-in-law is too light to be allowed to start her gardening service. There is a thing called MAFIA, and they DO exist. Just try to grab a paper route, in South Texas. So, if you are for illegal aliens busting through the gate no matter what, then you support modern day enslavement of people who get trapped in a poverty cycle that most will never break free of, and for the blocking of real citizens having their shot FIRST. Can you imagine ANY other country allowing what we have, much less more? I say elliminate the "Migrant Worker" status, streamline the alien/resident applications and lower the fees. In fact elliminate most fees. These people have no savings! And the next person that askes me, "Yes, but if the farmers and such paid everyone at least minimum wage, would you be willing to pay $5 for an onion?" YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES Otherwise I would not be able to sleep at night knowing that I swallowed the line of crap that those big companies fed me. Sorry for stealin' this thread. Of the soap box, now...... Thanks for listening.
Jen, I disagree. Here, the young people are NOT willing to do the work for minimum wage. They feel they're "worth more than that", even if they're flipping burgers. Or they take the job, get mad, and quit after one or two weeks. Or management has to accept their lousy attitude and whiney ways and lack of work ethic.
I have to agree with Jackie in that aspect. My BIL for example, (the one I vented about), he barley made it through high school, never went on to college, until he went to Wal-mart 2 years ago, when he was 28, he never held a job down longer than 1-2 months and 2 months was considered longevity for him. If, by that 1-2 month period he was not given a raise or promotion, he walked, because he believes he is better than that. HE would rather sit on his rear collecting welfare before accepting ANY job that paid him less than $10 per hour. Which is why I was shocked that he lasted this long at Wal-mart starting at $7.50 an hour. With it being neccessary for people to have a college degree before finding some menial position more and more people have the expectation that they can walk out into the workforce and they will recieve a big paycheck and awesome benefits along with that management job. It used to be... if 30 year old Jim Bob was a burger flipper since he was 18, as long as he was an ethical, honest and devoted worker, those attributes determined how good a man is. Nowadays, if you had the same 30 year old Jim Bob, flipping burgers for the last 12 years, his work record would not play into anything, he would more than likely be considered a loser. How many people want to be in a career position that they are considered losers? Most people want the satisfaction of having a good solid reputable job where they can say... I am the District Manager of Burger operations the moment they walk out into the workforce.
