Oh for Heaven's Sake!

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  1. Actressdancer

    Actressdancer New Member

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    WELL, I should SAY SO!!! We can't allow HUGGING at school! Only s-x is permitted!!! :roll:

    Gosh!!! I often drop Carl off in the morning, and of course he kisses me when he gets out of the car. Do you think they might suspend him, too?
     
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    My 11 almost 12 years old ds would be kicked out!!! This is unbelievable!!!!!!!
     
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    Before anyone thinks that I endorse PDA in school: My 16yo niece recently got an after school suspension for kissing another student at bus loading. I agree with that. I think a 'no kissing' rule is perfectly reasonable in school. But hugging, imo, is a whole different ball of wax.
     
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    I agree, Amie! Kissing is on a completely different level. I had lots of "guy friends", and I would hug them on occasion, but it was no different for me than patting them on the shoulder. Heck, yesterday I visited the funeral of a 98yo woman. She had been a friend of my parents', and I had dated her son, though I've probably only seen him maybe four or five times in the last 15 years. You better believe I hugged him, and I sure don't feel there was anything inappropriate in doing it!

    I wonder if you can hold hands?
     
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    LOL...I was coming on now to post the same story!

    I agree with you ladies. This is nuts! Now your kids will be totally confused with what is and is not proper affection.
     
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    The morons in charge of the public schools should be worrying about much bigger problems. Like why kids that graduate can't read or why there is such a large amount of perverts allowed to teach in the classroom or any other insane number of problems facing american schools today.

    This is just another example of why our schools suck.
     
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    Wonderfully put! I couldn't agree more.
     
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    good grief. that's ridiculous -- she was giving her GIRL friends a hug goodbye, not making out with some boy! :roll:
     
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    I was careful not to make note of the gender issue here. You see, my niece got in trouble for kissing a girl. Yes, she is a lesbian. Boy or girl, imo, it makes no difference. Mental health experts agree that the average person needs 5 hugs a day to stay healthy. Our nature is mostly to hug and touch and make contact. And it has nothing to do with sexuality (for the most part).
     
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    yipes, sorry about that -- i scrolled the replies quick and looking back at yours now, mine looks kinda...well y'know - i didn't intend it to be though! and i could rewrite what i said to this:

    "good grief. that's ridiculous -- she was giving her good friends a hug goodbye, not making out with someone!"

    better? :D
     
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    My ds would be expelled! He is a big hugger!! LOL

    So ridiculous.....what do you even say to that?
     
  14. Jackie

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    OK, Carl and I discussed it tonight, and he is actually taking the school's side. He says, first of all, that we may very well not have ALL the story. Which, of course, you know. Also, sometimes things have gotten so out of hand that, when they have to crack down on something stupid like this, the kids "need to be intelligent enough" to stop, because the teachers/administration no longer has the patience for it. Also, chances are, she KNEW the rules and what would happen, but did it anyway.

    Again, I think it's stupid, but just wanted to give you the perspective of a high school teacher in a school that has administrators that don't back up teachers and where things are out of control.
     
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    I can see his point. Isn't there always more to a story??

    It just SOUNDS so ridiculous! :)
     
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    I guess I can honestly say that I don't care how much more there is to the story. Even after I have mentally taken this scenario to any possible extreme. If my child is ever in a position to be punished for hugging a friend they are in the wrong position.
     
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    I agree completely. The rule itself is moronic. That is what I have the problem with. No matter what the story is the fact that two friends can not hug each other is absurd.

    And ps advocates are concerned that hs'ers aren't exposed to the real world. Where in the real world will you get punished for hugging a friend?:roll:
     
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    I agree that this is a ridiculous rule. But, it's not new. When I was in 9th grade, my Math teacher got on my case about hugging my friends. Math was my 1st hour class and a few of my friends were in 8th grade (it was a small school with k-12 in the same building). My Math class was in the Jr High section of the building. So, before class I hang out in the hall with my friends (8th & 9th graders). One day before class we gave each other hugs & my teacher saw it. He actually tried to tell me that not only was I not to hug my friends, but that I technically wasn't allowed to talk to them in the hall before class (the ones still in 8th grade) and that he'd been allowing me to anyway. He told me if I did it again, he wouldn't allow me to talk to them anymore either. We ended up in an arguement in class & he eventually sent me to the principal's office. All because of a HUG!
    It's pathetic. There are so many serious problems in the public schools & they focus on small inconsequential things instead.
     
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    maybe she was "intelligent enough" to view a hug between friends as just that - a hug between friends.. and not as what is normally known as a "display of affection" ... know what i mean? the term "PDA" generally brings to mind affection that is romantic or sexual in nature ... rules like these are meant to curb tonsil hockey in the hallways - which i completely agree with -- and maybe this young lady just interpreted the rule in the way that most normally would.....if i saw that rule written in a school handbook and my dd asked me if she could hug a friend goodbye at the end of the day, i'd have said "of course, it's not for that" without any hesitation --- because that's what is generally understood by it... know what i mean? maybe this girl just made the normal assumptions that people do with that type of rule...assumed it was meant to cover the romantic/sexual type stuff and not just a normal hug to a friend.....

    is your other half a teacher? that's how i'm reading your post (please correct me if i'm wrong!) --- i *do* understand what he's saying there, and i don't envy him having to work in an environment where they aren't supported by administration (which i understand as well - i have a friend who teaches special education and i've heard many many stories from her that demonstrate that lack of support) .
     
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    Yes, he is a teacher. He teaches "Integrated Algebra". That's a class taught to students that have already flunked Algebra II (usually because the have "passed" Algebra I with a "D", and have absolutely no idea what they're doing) but still need another math credit to graduate. The real "cream of the crop", so to speak. It's a job *I* certainly wouldn't want!!! (And it helps reaffirm our decision to homeschool! When people talk about the local schools, HE can speak with authority about them!)
     
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    Unfortunately, the "real world" IS becoming more unnaccepting of people showing "friendly" forms of affection, such as hugging. Hug the wrong person, and it's "sexual harrasment". However, inappropriate affection (at least in public!) no one says anything about.

    I have had people get on my case twice for hugging, both when I was college-age. Both were church-related. One time, I was at a large church meeting, and a friend from high school I hadn't seen in YEARS showed up. I gave him (yes, a guy!) a hug, we spoke, and that was it. A guy from my small group asked, "Who was that?" "An old friend," I told him. He said, "Well, I should HOPE SO!!!" Took me back a bit, but many of the people at this place came originally from a rather promiscuous life-style, so maybe they were more sensitive.

    The second time was when a new ministry was trying to get started on Campus. There were about three guys renting a house, which was being used as a base. My roommate had connections with one of the guys (went to high school with him...?). So I baked some bread and took over there. While I was there, another guy came in, who was part of the campus ministry I belonged to, but he lived out of town and wasn't around much. I didn't know he was back in town, and we hugged. Later that day, Charlie came to me and asked that I talk to the one guy in charge of the new people, and explain how we were "just friends". I guess after I left, he spole to Charlie about the appropriate way to "treat a Sister". GEESH!!!
     

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