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Discussion in 'Homeschooling in the News' started by MegCanada, Oct 5, 2011.

  1. MegCanada

    MegCanada New Member

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    ... this is NO way for a principal to act!

    Now, our schools have clear rules - no political t-shirts (including any references to sex, drugs or religion). But if a student did wear, say, a Conservative Party t-shirt to school, he'd simply be asked to either turn it inside out or go home. There'd be no yelling. And certainly no chest-bumping! There may be "two sides", but I can't imagine anything good about a principal emptying a classroom so he can be alone with a student he's upset with.

    The principal sounds like he's got some serious rage issues. It was smart of the boy's sister to insist on remaining in the room as a witness (I'm guessing she's his twin, if she's in the same class?).

    (And what a way to turn a very boring club into the hippest, edgiest thing since smoking in the bathroom! :lol: Kid's will be joining just to stick it to the principal.)
     
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  3. dalynnrmc

    dalynnrmc New Member

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    If that happened, I agree the principal shouldn't have acted like that... but it really sounds crazy. It doesn't make a lot of sense that the principal would send all the kids out of a class instead of just taking him OUT of class. Sending all the kids out of a class "except one" puts a huge target on his back for lawsuits and all sorts of accusations. Why would he do that? It makes absolutely no sense. If it really happened that way, he probably should have been out of the school system a long time ago. Chances are there are more stories like this in his past, since people don't generally get principal jobs right off the bat - they are generally teachers first.

    Anyway, maybe I'm wrong, but it sounds crazy. LOL
     
  4. Jackie

    Jackie Active Member

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    Sigh.... If everything is as reported, I have to agree the principal was out of line, and needs some kind of repremand or something. And yes, I can see it happening just that way. But I can also see a student trying to set up an antagonizing confrontation on purpose. Not saying he did; I know nothing about him, so I can't say.
     
  5. Emma's#1fan

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    "That's when, the ACLU says, Moser entered Sigler's classroom and asked all the students to leave. Sigler's sister, who was also in the classroom, refused."

    Where was the teacher? I am assuming there was a teacher in the class. Was the teacher also asked to leave? I am assuming the students from the class were outside the door with the teacher. If the Principal was yelling, wouldn't the teacher have heard? My point is, there has to be others who heard the principal if he was yelling. If the story is true, I hope the teacher is released for not stepping in to defend the student.
     
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    I don't know anything about this student or the principal either, but it does seem like this student was trying to antagonize the principal. He had already been told multiple times that the shirt was not allowed and continued on to class wearing it when he wasn't supposed to. Unfortunately, the principal seems to have taken the bait.
     
  7. Emma's#1fan

    Emma's#1fan Active Member

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    Assuming the whole story is true. While it is possible, I keep asking myself, where was the teacher? I had a teacher who lost it a few times. He was released until he was treated for his alcohol addiction. So it is possible but there seems to be more to this story that we are not reading.
     
  8. MegCanada

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    I think that kids can often sense when an adult is "on the edge", and zero right in to drive them crazy. And on purpose or not, he's still the child and the principal is the adult. "He's deliberately trying to antagonize me!" is no excuse for unprofessional behaviour as an educator.

    Certainly an adult should never deliberately arrange to be alone with a youth. He should be disciplined for that, if nothing else.

    My son pulled something similar with his (sleep deprived, new dad) French teacher a couple years back. My boy always walked the fine edge of passive-aggressively polite so it was difficult to discipline him, and every time his teacher over-reacted it make him look like a bad guy to all the other boys in the class. Who then took the bait and ran with it. That classroom was utter chaos the whole year - even the other teachers were commenting on it.
     
  9. MegCanada

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    Outside with the other students, perhaps? Or in the room with the principal? Or heading down to the office to look for the kid's mom, since she was on the way to pick her son up? :confused: You're right - it's an excellent question.

    I know my mother, bless her, would never have allowed that principal to come into the room and disrupt her class. She used to teach in a prison, and once the warden and bunch of guards came in to pick up a prisoner. My mother blocked the door and said, "I am TEACHING! You will NOT interrupt MY class, and you will NOT put one hand on MY student!"

    This was back in the Sixties and she was just a young woman. But those big tough guys backed right down. :lol:

    Another time she was teaching in a university, and a student showed up who had been expelled from campus. A lady in administration called the police and they showed up to remove him from my mother's class. They didn't get any further than the prison guards did! She told them they were welcome to wait outside until her class was done and escort him off campus then. But as long as she was teaching, her class was a safe haven for all students, and police were not welcome.

    I can only imagine how she would have reacted to the principal trying to send all her students out of the room. It would have been a treat to see! :D

    P.S. It occurs to me that if the kid was scared of the principal, he may have refused to leave the room with him. If he stayed parked in his seat, trying to say he was just "in class", minding his own business, that would lead to the principal wanting to empty the room. Basically, if the kid wouldn't come away with him, then he'd send everyone else away from the kid.
     
  10. Jackie

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    I agree on all accounts.
     
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    All I can think is...I'd paint the inside of the t shirt so I could still wear my message...Don't tell any teenagers that though! LOL
     
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    Sonita, you're such a rebel! :lol:
     

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