Michael Jackson still chose his life..it was his decision. And he is the one who hurt so many children too and other people too. Many of us, even on this board, have gone through a lot in our lives. We just don't run around molesting small children and then blaming some guy from 40 yrs older for our choice of action now.
I'm not a huge MJ defender but I have to point something out. Michael Jackson was found not guilty of the charges brought against him in the one matter that involved sexual abuse and molestation charges. The guy was weird. The guy was practically a child himself but I think we need to stop assuming he was an abuser and demand some higher standards of proof before we accuse people, especially the dead who can no longer defend themselves, of such things.
Dawn you are rocken today! lol. All your posts were so to the point and a bit of a reality check today. lol. I feel like I have no reason to post....ahhhh...remember the days we were in conflict? LOL.
Thank you for your wise words, I hope for the sake of his children all the name calling, insults and slurs stop. It's embarrassing to see grown people stoop to such measures when the man is gone, and his children are still in this world. To them he was their father and he loved them.
I just saw the tv guide. The cover picture was of Farrah Fawcett, and large words about her. Up in the right corner was a little blurb about MJ! I was happy to see that. Nothing personal against MJ neccessarily, just glad that Farrah got the headlines on that one!
I have a good day every once in awhile. I think the other thing that people tend to forget is that MJ is a dad. Three little kids were left behind and from accounts they're heartbroken about it. There was a picture in the local paper of them the other day and it just about had me crying. The youngest was clutching a doll and hiding behind a program. Poor little guy.
Not to drag this out anymore...since the press is doing a fine job of that...I felt terrible for those kids being in the public eye. They spent years being basically hidden from the press..not much was ever said about them and now they are all the media talks about. VERY sad. I also felt bad for those kids having to grieve so publically. As far as MJ being a child molestor...with his money and how he put himself out there..it is just as likely someone made it up to get 20 million dollars. There are parents who do worse with their kids.
well I was talking to the neighbor lady the other day about this I told her MJ is more then likely turning over in his grave with his family making his kids public. He never wanted his kids in the public eye that is why they weren't. Now the family is putting all kinds of pictures and things out there. MJ would be so unhappy with them. these might be some of reason he had no contact with his months before he died. I am sure it's not I know it was because of his drugs. But, if he was alive and they were doing this he would be very upset. I don't understand why they are making the kids grieve in the public eye and why they feel they need to put up know.
I am horrified, as I thought this was a Christian website. So much judging going on it's unbelievable. None of us know whether the allegations against Michael Jackson are true or not, so how can any of us call him a child molester? If he did, that is terrible, but he was not convicted and one of the boys even came forward and said his parents made him say that stuff! I don't think God appreciates all the judging either, as He says not to judge in His Bible. Let's be Christians in our actions, not just by name. If a non-Christian saw all the horrible things Christians said on this thread, they would call Christians hypocrites. As far as the skin color thing, his dermatologist said Michael Jackson had that skin condition where you get the light spots. He was going to darken the light spots but thought it would look terrible, plus more would just keep coming. Another choice was to cover it with a bunch of make-up, but that would look terrible. So they decided to just lighten it all. Anyway, who cares?! What's the big deal anyway? Why does it matter so much? If you don't like him, you don't have to, but to get on a Christian website and slander his name is just plain awful and I am completely disgusted.
Faith3 I like your perspective. I also heard that the first child that accused MJ of molestation admitted he lied to get his family money..... what a shame to ruin someones life for greed.
One last thing... don't assume I am a "die hard fan" who will defend 'till the end. I liked some of his music, and to me he seemed like a sweet guy, but I didn't know him. I don't care who he was, famous or not... no one deserves the treatment he recieved on here. All I'm saying is that unless you know all like God does, you just shouldn't say anything if it's something negative against another human being, because really you have no clue. You are in no position to judge... God is.
Exactly, ABall. We don't know what really went on and it just doesn't seem right to put someone down, even more so now that they are deceased.
Wonderful!:love: I think with a lot of people though, like me, I just tend to wonder. I don't know that he did anything against those children, and I have no idea what kind of father he was. Only God knows. I do wonder though, because it's our human nature to wonder. Like...what kind of person would pay off the mother of his children to go away, and what kind of "mother" would take money to leave her own children??? I'm not judging by any means...their relationship with Christ or lack there of is between them and God. But, it does make me wonder what kind of people would act like that. AND, that is not slander, MJ admited to paying her off, and she admitted to leaving her children for a large sum of money. I don't think it's judging to say I don't agree with those actions. I'm not damning them to hell (which is what judging is)...everyone is within their right to say they agree with someone or not. So, as much as I totally agree with your sentiments, I also have to admit I do not agree with the actions of those two people! It breaks my heart that a mother and father would actually do something like that. I don't care in a way that some people care (about the allegations about child abuse, his skin, etc. etc. etc.), but I do care about human beings in general, and I care that those children didn't have a mother because she walked away for money.
Thank you Rhi and JenPooh. JenPooh, I think everyone wonders about the stuff that they hear. I just don't agree that it's fine for Christians to say such horrible stuff about another person. Some of the previous comments were terrible and very judgemental and that is not our job as Christians. I did hear about the sum of money for her to go away, but I just try not to concern myself with stuff like that. I always feel guilty for listening to gossip anyway. I do not know what led the two of them to make certain decisions, so I really can't say much about it. You definitely do not have to agree with the actions of other people... I am not faulting you for that, nor do I have the right to. You sound like a sweet and caring person!:love:
Yes, your sentiments are correct, Faith. But for the record, this is NOT a Christian web site. It's just that many of us here ARE Christians and we express Christian views freely. But there are non-Christians on here too, and they are welcome. And even those of us that ARE Christians often need the encouragement to live out our talk better!
hmmmmmmmmmm I been on this board along time I didn't know it was a christian board I thought it was a open board for everyone a like. New to me. Anyway, I agree and don't agree, we all are allow freedom of speech, I don't think anyone on here was judging him I think they all were saying there opinon and what they heard. Most of what was said was repeated by the news of some kind. We all are in titled to a opinon yea sometimes we don't like what others say but that is life, you turn the cheek and go on. But, if you listen to the news most of what was said was said from that. So, it was just repeat. I don't think any of us were out to hurt anyone. We were just gving our opinons on what we thought and how we felt about this and that when we heard it on the news.
Kris: I was thinking the same thing. Open board, many opinions. Some I don't like , some I do. Thats life! I was going to say that I judge people all the time. I'm not ashamed about it. If I didn't judge people or make assumptions about people then I would have a lot of people walking all over me or have bad people in my life. We all judge no matter if we say we don't, its human natural. Sometimes I'm wrong about people BUT 95% of the time I'm correct. As far as MJ, well I'm sorry but if he was really innocent then he would have never paid off someone! We were in court for over 4 years ( we were being sued) and we fought all the way because we KNEW we did nothing wrong and it was worth fighting over. We won because the TRUE facts of the case came out. We could have settled for $500 but we knew we didn't do anything wrong, so no settlement, straight to jury trial, we won! About his skin problem, who knows if the derm is blowing a bunch of smoke or not? Maybe if he did bleach/lightening ( or whatever they do) his skin he could be in trouble for that because his license doesn't cover that? He was just weird , thats all. I could care less that he died ( I didn't know him personally after all) and people can talk good or bad about, it really doesn't matter, that is THEIR opinion.
