Oklahoma institutionalizes most pre-K

The last part of this thread really ought to move over to the "other converstaions" slot where others might want to join in.

 

Just read an interesting op-ed from HSLDA on the topic! (The ORIGINAL topic, that is, G'ma! :angel: )

http://www.hslda.org/elink.asp?id=2954

 

Wow. Jackie, that said it all. BTW, Oklahoma was not on the list of states that hve introduced bills for compulsory education for four year olds, but they have tried many times and I believe they do it every year. Of course, they might not need to since I guess the state already "believes" in it. Thanks for the link.

 

My hair is more grey than brown now (my dad started going grey when he was 16 and bald when he was 19... we got the better half of the deal. LOL I had my first grey hairs when I was 17.) and I often get asked if my daughters are my grandkids. I am 37, so I'm older than most moms with toddlers, I suppose, but not THAT much older! LOL

 

YOU'RE THAT OLD???
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Gosh, when does Diane turn 40? You'll have to come home to Ohio to give her a hard time! Marilyn, you will NEVER look old as long as you have that bright smile. And your girls will help keep you young. Phillip keeps me young, although Faythe does her darndest to age me, lol!​

 

ROFLOL... Yep, I'm THAT old! Diane is exactly one year and 5 days older than I am, so she still has a year and a half before she turns 40. We need to throw her a big party on that birthday.

Big news today!! During her speech therapy session, Katie pointed to yellow, blue and purple pegs and said "lello, boo, purple!" That's the first time she has named any colors. YAYYYYYY!!!

 

GOOD FOR KATIE!!! Maybe we should have the party 6 months after Diane's 40th and celebrate both of your dotage at the same time......

 

LOL That would be fun, too. I suppose we should stop hijacking this thread, huh?

 

ROFL I think this thread is permanently hijacked...

 

OMGoodness, did I miss this! Where have I been?!? First, thank you Jackie for the kind comment. I have found many positives with children being in a home atmosphere while learning at the same time (who would have thought hey? learning in a home?) and giving them structure. I see the way the kids learn so much more faster and easier than if they were in a larger center with 4 times as many kids and only one teacher. Now, don't get me wrong, my passion is to still start the daycare in my church because that is where my heart is. I can touch so many more people that way. But, being with Tanner and these other kids I have known since they were babies, has been a great and rewarding experience. These kids are so darn smart it's crazy, and I attribute it to them being in a small group with lots of one on one attention...something you just can't get in a public pre-k classroom.

I think that people are very fixed on education, and they should be, but others have such a radical view on the other side. I have met parents who would never give a homecare the time of day because they don't trust someone alone with thier kids, or they think we "babysit". It's the ones that ARE like that, that give people like me a bad rep. I take pride in what I do, and not all home providers do that.

I have also met parents who think because a pre-k is in a public school, it "MUST" be the best. UGH! I hate that. People are fooled, and they fall for what the schools "claim" to be like. Now, I understand that parents just do what they have to do. Like Becky said, sometimes people don't have the choice. But it's the ones who are not informed and brainwashed by the public school label, and parents who just like to ship their children off because they "can't handle" their children that make me cringe.

It's all about making the right choice for your child and finding what suites them best. We have some wonderful public schools, but we also have some terrible ones. It's up to the parents to dig and find out information because you can never judge a book by it's cover.

My two cents! Or five!

 

That is because in Iran or other more conservative Muslim countries one is taught that you have to stick to your religious principles since they try not to seperate religion from state. Sure, one can decide to do what they want but when it is spread around to others (i.e. homosexuality and the likes) then it brings about tremendous harms. That is why this country slowly is finding out that some of these freedoms are not so good after all.

If you mean they as in the iranians, then to you they may seem mentally ill because you have been raised up in America.

 

Getting back to the subject.

I just started working at a day-care for a school and I bring my son with me and I take care of him as well. They just started a pre-k for 3 year olds and some of the women there wanted to make me put my son there and I refused to. They would say "why?" with such a face where you think they feel sorry you! I said, "Because I homeschool my son!"

One of them said, "But they do more activities then you will be doing with your son in the day-care and the kids under 3 years."

So I said with a smile, "Let me show you my son's backpack that we brought for our day at the day-care today!" And I took out the alphabet book with tracing paper, the finger-paints, the colored pencils, the crayons, the writing paper, the books on our letter of the week theme which include a science theme! Then I told her that at home we also have a technology class where we pick something and we go over its parts along with my incorporating of religious studies and making it the focus.

Let's just say she looked flabbergasted!

Ha =p

 

Woa there, Nelly! I think you read me wrong . . .

Welcome to the table!
Haven't met you yet, but welcome!

I read your comments.....
Sorry, but your second comment seemed like a "Yea, well you're ugly, too!" kind of desperate comeback with no real meaning.

It made no sense.
"If you mean they as in the iranians, then to you they may seem mentally ill because you have been raised up in America."

SO!
It goes like this......

Anyone who wishes to KILL someone, JUST because the are a different religion IS MENTALLY ILL.


Sadly, there are freaks in every religion, who ruin it for the rest of us.


Sorry, if you miss-understand that comment and thus, feel the need to attack, but it is a fact. Mental illness comes into play when people want to SLIT YOUR THROAT for praying o Jesus.

See hon, here in America, we LOCK UP people who talk and act out on that type of thinking. So don't atack me for saying it. In fact MOST of the world, would do the same.

Just to refresh everyone's (And your) memory. the post of mine, that she is quoting (In it's entirety) . . . had nothing to do with Iraninan people....The post actually referenced how people can come to this country illegaly and yet openly protest in the streets.... And how, in comparison, you could not do the same in any other country.

Just thought I would clear that up for ya.


Gessh!
I hopped on here tonight and found this old post, popped up in my CP and felt like I got B**ch-Slapped by a stranger.

That was stupid.


Now, as you put it, Getting Back to the Subject . . .
Welcome to the table.

Why you felt the need to comment on such an old thread in such a negative way is beyond me.

But I read it.


jen

 

The reason why I commented on such an old thread is because I am new to the forums and I am reading every thread that I feel is interesting and if I feel that someone is incorrect based on my beliefs then I have every right to state it without being rude like you were just rude to me. I don't however, like to make my posts emotional and lose the point of the discussion which I feel you just did with your assumption that I was trying to attack you and basically cause some immature fight.

Me expressing myself and my opinion does not mean that I am here to cause a problem with you. Rather, it seemed like you were the one attacking people by calling them mentally insane for believing something that is from their religion.

As for the issue of killing someone who changes their religion from Islam to any other religion then I wonder if those who also embrace Islam from other religions knowing they are to be killed if they apostate are mentally-ill/insane.

And I knew what the point of your statements were. I had read the pages previously in full but I am not the type of person that likes to ignore what my heart doesn't feel right about. I hope you can understand that.

 

Dayng it, you did it again... You missunderstood. And this time, you have miss-quoted me.

Look, I am not trying to fight with you. I am simply trying to CORRECT YOU, because you have again MISS Understood my posts....

You are miss understanding what I am writing.

I did not say that "Killing someone who CHANGES their religion." as you argued...

UUggh!

I said, "Anyone who wishes to KILL someone, JUST because the are a different religion IS MENTALLY ILL.

Come'on!
I know that if you understood what I was saying that you wouold have to agree...

For example...
If Frank want to kill Bob, JUST because Bob is from a different religion, Frank has ISSUES! And needs mental help. In fact, in this and most countries, he would be locked up for expressing those sentiments, or especialy for acting on them.

But some religious freaks (Christians are not immune to this) some freaks decide they need to KILL people who believe differently than them.

Sorry. That is a clear case of mentall instability.

THAT is what I was saying in the post from MARCH.

If you dissagree with the fact the "FRANK" would have ISSUES, then YOU have issues..

Geeesh!

Again...

Wanting to kill ANYONE JUST because they PRAY to a different God, is retarted.

This happens every day, and it bytes that good people (From ALL religions) have to put up with the minority of freaks who KILL, just because someone follows a different religion.

How could you possibly disagree with THAT?

It is as if you are thinkning I am saying something that I am not. It is as if you think I am saying.. geesh. I have no idea. But stop miss interpreting what I am saying. Please.

You're probably pretty cool and it would byte to miss out on knowing you simply because you miss understand what I write.

And yes, it felt like you attacked me. Which is why, in your next post after the one to me you wrote, Back to the subject at hand, as if you had to stop and "Deal" with me, first.

THAT was rude.
Now calm down.

I'm off to eat more chocolate.

 

*never mind* I'm better off not even mentioning it. : )

It's okay, I will take a chill pill. Hopefully you will too.

 

I know what you mean Jen!

 

I'm very sorry to hear that Liz. I've always enjoyed your responses and posts.

 

I was
#1 Miss-quoted.
and
#2. Stood up for myself

Just because you and I had a dissagreement a few months ago, is no reason for you to try to side slap me again when someone WHO MISSQUOTED ME dissagrees with me.

You seem to have an issue with just being nasty to people no matter what happens.

And what is completely sad is..... I soooo totally respect you. You do not believe me, but I do! I think you are marvalous. I think you know more in your right pinkie than I may ever know about homeschooling. But you won't hear that. You only concentrate on that fact that we dissagreed ONCE.

And yes, that is sad.

So, if you must leave, peace to you.

jen