Will you stop buying Hallmark greting cards>

Hallmark is launching a new line of greeting cards to support gay marriage. I know it is about the all mighty $, but I can not support this and will never buy another Hallmark card again.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080821/ap_on_bi_ge/gay_wedding_cards

What are your feelings?

 

I already quit McDonalds, and probably won't buy Hallmarks any more.

BUT from a strictly BUSINESS viewpoint, the market IS there, and it makes BUSINESS sense to do this (even though I feel it is the "wrong" thing to do!)

(I might add that I honesty buy very few Hallmark cards/products already; I can get them just nice cheaper elsewhere!)

 

Personally I feel to each their own, who are we to judge them?

Some of my best friends in the world have been gay.

 

I don't feel this is about judgement. I have had several homosexual friends in the past. I can love the people and still believe what they do is wrong. Love the sinner, hate the sin. I think this is about standing up for your personal beliefs. It's everyone's choice where to spend their money, and why not spend it at a company whose giving money to causes you believe in? I already don't shop at Target, and I don't buy Hallmark cards anyway, but I'm having a harder time with McDonald's.

 

I make my own greeting cards.

 

Okay first what did I miss about Target and McDonalds? What did they do?

I'll keep buying Hallmark. My best friend in the world is a lesbian. While I don't agree with it I still love her. Come to think of it I don't usually buy Hallmark anyway - I buy the cheap cards from the $ store.

 

Sadly, most greeting card "brands" are subsidiaries of Hallmark, so you have very few options (even dollar store cards are often a subsidiary brand).

And what's up with McDonald's?

 

Oh well if that is the case then yes I will still buy Hallmark.

And I do want to know about McD's and Target!

 

I'm not saying that it's impossible to avoid Hallmark, it will just take work to research all the brands.

 

The dollar store cards are usually made by Cleo (or that company under a million different names, one of their factories is near here called Paper Magic, some sell under this name), they are not part of Hallmark

I do buy Hallmark cards most of the time.. from Walmart

 

I think that we can pick apart any company and find something wrong with the way they do business.

People are just people and it is not my business to judge someone based on whether or not they are straight. I am not the the supreme authority and I can find a lot of things wrong with myself before I go picking on someone else.

 

So beautifully put Katie.

 

I actually like the idea of these cards.
I was trying for weeks to find a card for my sister -in- law. She announced she was getting "married" ...well right before the wedding my dh and I found out it was not going to be a legal wedding just a commitment ceremony. She told everyone else that it was a legal thing but I didn't agree that was right , but she is making a commitment, so I had to look for a card that was weddingish without saying wedding.
I found the perfect cards in the "gay" section , that simply read " wonderful things happen when two people make a loving commitment to each other ' , it also had 2 beautiful doves on the front.
So even though its was for a same sex couple, the cards still came in handy for me. I'm sure other people will use them for different reasons as well as for gay people.

 

I believe there is a HUGEdifference between judgment and convictions. We live in a world that says if you do not agree with it then you are judging it. As far as I am concerned, this is very incorrect. I have a couple of gay cousins and I love them to death. But I do not agree with their beliefs. How is this judgment?

When we speak of the "supreme authority" my mind automatically runs to the Living God. God himself came against homosexuality BUT He loves the sinner. If God said it is wrong then I am not judging. He said it and I believe it. God ALREADY judged it for what it is. Indeed, judgment is His alone. But he is the one who sets the standards by which we should be living. If I treated people unkindly because I didn't agree with their lifestyle then I would have a serious problem. Who am I to treat anybody like dirt because I do not agree with their life. But, I can disagree with their lifestyle, love them as people, and still be kind to them. When we speak of judgment in accordance the WORD, we need to make sure we use it in the fashion the Lord meant for it to be used. As people, we make judgement calls everyday. How else would we know what we consider right or wrong? When we use wisdom in our choices, it is a judgment call. We can make bad judgment calls or Godly judgment calls. God calls us to love and support His will. For me, I wouldn't be supporting Him if I supported something that is completely contrary to what God created us to be.
So yes, I completely agree when people say that we aren't to judge homosexuality. We don't have to, God already did! It is written in the Word.
... and I am happy to say that this is one of the many reasons why He sent his precious son.

 

Thanks Patty, that was very well put.

 

Yep Patty, well put.

I'll add to that a hair: To imply that we are not allowed to "judge" is to say that we have no right to teach our children it's wrong to lie. After all, who are we to judge that it's wrong to lie? By the world's standards, they should be able to choose for themselves if they want to live a life full of lies.

Do you see the flaw in the logic?

We have to make moral judgments against behavior. Just not against people.

[btw, I'm spending about 6 hours tonight helping one of my very best friends... and her girlfriend]

 

The reason why many people, including myself, no longer shop at Target is because they refuse to allow the Salvation Army at their stores around Christmas time. That somewhat bothered me, but I quit shopping there for good when they gave my grandmother a difficult time returning some slippers she'd received from my mother as a gift. They told my grandmother that the slippers had been on sale when they were purchased, so to exchange them (for a pair 2 sizes smaller of the exact same slippers), she had to pay the difference...Since when does ANY store do that?

As for McDonald's, they are going out of their way to promote the homosexual lifestyle. They are contributing money to help further the agenda and supporting various GLBT organizations. It's one thing to not be prejudiced against people who are homosexual (nobody is saying they can't hire them, or treat them with respect or anything like that), that I can agree with. It's a problem that they seem to be trying to help push the gay agenda and make it an acceptable "alternate lifestyle" and with their influence and money, supporting it.

There's also a call to Boycott Ford for the same reasons as McDonald's.

American Family Association is who I find out about this stuff from. I don't always agree with their opinions on things, or their reasons for boycotting, but I do support their reasons and boycotts of these 3 companies. I also occasionally sign their petitions and send emails/letters to representatives in both government and companies to try and keep some degree of moral standards alive and well in the USA..This is my country and I don't want it to be a total cesspool by the time my son is older for him and his generation to have to try and clean it up.

As far as Hallmark goes, I don't knowingly purchase any Hallmark brand card and very rarely purchase any cards anyway.

 

PS. Patty, that is very well stated. I agree with you 110%.

 

Swayde, thanks for the information!!! I never knew Target was doing what it was doing.

 

Thanks ladies! You are sweet.

...and for those who don't agree with me, you are sweet too! :love: :angel: