What it boils down to is we all have different opinions about The Duggars. Some people think they are wonderful and others think they are not.
And I understand that, but to form an opinion through assumptions is not right, IMO. That is my point. To form it on facts is one thing, but to form it around untruths isn't ok.
Oh come on! We all form opinions through asusmptions - you don't know them either and think they are wonderful people! And I'm not saying they aren't wonderful. But you ASSUME they are however you don't know that for a fact. So for those of us who do think it is nuts we aren't saying they are bad people. They may be the nicest people in the entire world but in my book it is still nutso to have 19 kids. Rhi said it best - we all have different opinions. And that SHOULD be allowed. None of us should sit here and tell each other how they think we should feel about it.
I have to agree with Monkeymamma,how can you judge us for saying we don't agree with that many children and you are right. None of us are right, None of us know them and what goes on behind close doors. We all are in title to our opinions like Rhi said and we should be happy with our family. Even though I still think she is a sex freak and nuts... I feel so sorry for the older children and still waiting for the book one or several of them write. That will tell the truth... Until then it's all our own opinions.
You're right, Kris. We all have the right to our opinions. Nothing wrong in saying you don't agree with having that many kids. Fine. Not a problem. But many people on here go way beyond that. You (collective YOU, not you personallyl!) pass judgement on them, based on your personal values, not on any hard facts. And it is done by wrapping an opinion around it. But in actuality it is still passing judgement. Again, Kris, I am NOT talking about YOU PERSONALLY. I am talking about the overall tone of this thread. And I don't think this was the intent of the OP.
I really want to know how she manages to home school that many children!? I only teach three and it takes a lot of time and energy, how does she homeschool so many? Do they use the buddy system for education as well? I hope not, because I really do not think children should be responsible for educating their siblings. I'm sure the Duggars are wonderful people, I just disagree with they way they choose to have a lot of kids and put a lot of the burden of raising all of those children onto their older siblings. Yes, children should help around the house but I don't think they should have to take on a ton of extra work because mom and dad want an army of children.
I agree with Kris & Monkey..... AND....good or bad, your opinion is based on passing judgement on what you see....So to act as though you're not passing judgement just becuase your cheering on 19, 20 & 21...is unfair.
Jackie, that is fine, I can take it. I understand what I said I would get shut down about, but it's still what I believe. I don't see anything wrong with this thread I see your point and I see the others too. They all are written on our own opinions, none of us know the family or live with them. So, we don't know what they are doing is right or wrong. So, when I read this thread and wrote in it. I took everyone written words as there own opinions and loved reading everyone of them. Because to be turthful something in every thread made me say that could be true. Maybe we should start a homeschool newspaper like you see at the store check out and write what we think. 99 percent of that stuff is someone opinion that don't know anything about the subject they are writing about. So, that is fine Jackie I understand where I stand on here it doesn't bother me. because everything that was written is a opinion not base on a fact.
KrisRv, I know what you were saying and meanning. The kids don't have a choice in what their parents want. My mother and aunts went though the same things with all the kids my grandma had, If she was not nursing a new baby, she was on the couch sick expecting another. My mother had to drop out of school in 8th grade cause grandma was so sick that mom had to watch the others. maybe they are different who knows, we only see what the cameras show us. Wonder how they manage to get all the schooling done in the day.
Nobody said it wasn't allowed to have their own opinions. However, just because "everyone does it" and forms their opinions by assuming, doesn't make it "right". I also said that I know someone who knows them personally. No I personally don't know them, but the person who I talk to who knows them well I trust as a source when she tells me things. I KNOW, from my own source, those children are happy and healthy and love the way their family operates. I don't think it's fair to assume, just because someone else would be unhappy in that situation, that the children are unhappy. THAT is assuming and the kind of assuming I don't agree with. No matter if we meet someone or not, there will always be people we don't agree with or don't like. That's reality. However, calling someone names (which a few have here) and that of the like is stepping over the line, IMO.
I never said it wasn't ok to disagree with their choices. What I don't agree with is people assuming the kids never get one on one attention, that they are always responsible for their little siblings 24/7, the kids are unhappy, etc...because that is something you can not prove. KWIM? That is the type of assuming I do not agree with.
Your are entitled to your opinion, just as I am. And I actually looked up the duggars website and sat there and read their stories, I even looked up their son that just got married and even read their website and even cousin Amy. I took the time to form my own opinion about what I think about them. And I did this a long time ago, way before this thread came up. I still think they are in love with reproducing. I still think they have profited and exploited their way of life and children. That's my opinion you don't have to agree with me and anyone has any right to think whatever they want it's what makes the world go round.
I think that the Druggars are an amazing family--and I emphasize the word family. They are not a couple with some children, the children are the family learning to take responsibility for themselves and for each other and to share. As to whether it is a perfect family, probably not, but then I have not met too many that think they came from a perfect family or had a perfect childhood personally.
jen, i wonder who you know, bc i actually know someone who knows them personally and spends time on a day to day basis with them. and he said they are exactly as they seem. real, honest to a fault, God fearing and God loving people. the children all love the way they are brought up, they love caring for the youngers, and they dont feel burdened but blessed to have such a family. i think it is fine to say how you might feel if you were one of the kids, but dont assume you know how they feel, k? they are diff from most families, and yes that may be bad in your eyes, but they feel fine with how they are raised. she schools them like we would, the oldest do help the youngers, and they do certain subject together. think one room school house.
It wasn't Jen that said anything about it she's defended them. I and a few other people have very different opinions than Jen concerning the Duggars.
Hmmm..... So that makes two people on here who know families that know them personally. And both of them say what wonderful, loving families they are. You would think that tells you something....
The tone of this thread both concerns me and saddens me...greatly. From what I have seen here, the members of this board all have very different lifestyles--VERY different--and my thoughts are that if a person readily gives a critical opinion about another family--one not on this board--just because they choose to accept as many children as the Lord provides them and work it all out as a family, then would that same person readily give a critical opinion about someone else on this board who has the same philosophy or any other philosophy/lifestyle that differs from their own. Personally, I like learning about other people not only for our similarities, but because of our differences. All I can think about is how hurt I would be for anyone here to make such harsh judgments on me because my lifestyle or philosophy differs from hers. How would you feel if it was you?