History and Timelines

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  1. Jackie

    Jackie Active Member

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    I've also found that many things are available on Google Images. And it also helps on those "empty" parts of the timeline! My kids are 10, 8, and almost 5 (NO LONGER MY BABY....WAHHHHHHH!!!!!) Many of my figures are "History thru the Ages", with some the cookie-cutter ones mentioned in the book.

    I don't plan on getting through all five volumes, even with my youngest. Volume II has just come out, and it will be a LONG time before she finishes Volume V. Linda has said herself that she hopes it will be done in time for her to use it with her grandkids, LOL! Someone wrote, complaining about that on the MOH board. Boy, did the ladies rally behind Linda!!! And then she posted and said quite plainly (AND correctly!!!) that she was a HS'ing mom, a wife, etc. and she didn't have time to devote 24 hours a day to doing this curriculum! So the others will come when they come.
     
  2. Brooke

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    Jackie.....

    I remember you saying something about Linda's timeframe, but couldn't remember what it was. Thanks for posting that.....I kinda feel like I have "permission" to wait a year or two now. We'll see what happens. Right now we are mixing American history (through literature) with MOH. 8yo ds prefers to read to and teach little sissy when we are doing American history, so I might just let him loose with reading books to her and go with a unit study approach...who knows?????.....I am so indecisive cuz I want to make the perfect decision and it just doesn't exhist :p No matter what we do for history, ds is definitely a timeline kinda guy (yippee! :D ) so we still go to the timeline to find out where we are in history.

    Side note....I use Google Images all the time for tons of stuff. I have saved images to use as screensavers (ds likes Legolas from LOTR) and for a drive-a-mental-image-home approach to monarch butterfly migration destinations (wowee!). WARNING: DON'T LOOK UP GOOGLE IMAGES WITH YOUR KIDS BY THE COMPUTER!!!!! I came across some racey images when typing in the simplest words. I always preview and save the pictures I want or something like that to prevent the kids from being contaminated :wink: .
     
  3. TinaTx

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    Brooke........

    KWYM by racey images :oops: I have used google images before, but not on this. Yep I knew. I typed in a few Bible characters yesterday and got one nude lady! Yep.......How sick can you get! My son can't do this at the computer, that would be good practice too, but NOOOOO, :evil:
     
  4. Deena

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    Hi Everyone,

    Jackie--thatnks for the info. about the clay and what to use, that's very helpful, I just didn't know where to start, and now I do!

    Tina--Thanks for the the "portraits" site. I didn't have that one, and now I do! :) The only other timeline figures that I can think of that haven't already been mentioned are the ones from:

    www.timelinesetc.com

    They have quite a few pictures, and I had already gotten that over a year ago. I am just now putting it into our curriculum--wish I had gotten around to this a couple of years ago! THey have an Enoch picture, and many others. They didn't have Cain and Abel, so I drew it in the same format that the pictures from TImelines Etc. are drawn. It worked out well. They have a different look for each of the time periods, which is another way to see the differences as you look at your timelines after a couple of years. Anyway, I know I've mentioned it before, but thought I'd throw it out there for ya again.

    Brooke--Our oldes that I am starting SOTW with the Ancients, is 11. My 13-yo 9th grader is doing ancients also, but not with the SOTW book. He gets his readings and things from the Bible and other books, including Kinfisher History Encyc. All my kids really like that book! We just finished the Nomads this past Thursday, and he (who HATES to write!!!) wrote 1 1/2 pages, every line about them!!! I was very pleased, to say the least! Sometimes the stuff just catches their fancy and they can hardly stop themselves! That's when I get so excited about homeschooling, when THEY get so excited about what we're doing! They just don't have the time to sit and do that kind of thing at school---they have to rush through so they can move on to other things!

    We're really enjoying this way of learning history!!! WOO-HOO! :D
     
  5. Deena

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    Ooops, by he, who wrote so much about Nomads, I meant my 11 year old, but that wasn't clear at all in my message, I don't think. Just thought I'd clear that one up...
     
  6. Deena

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    Hey, here's a neat site! It has maps and stories and great bits of info. about the different time periods! Try it and see what you think! :wink:

    http://www.mrdowling.com/index.html
     
  7. TinaTx

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    How much info are ya'll putting in your timelines after the characters? :?

    We are doing the characters, and since I have notebook style, we can put reports/biographies, etc. in after the character mentioned on the timeline. We are going to add *firsts this and that* when we come to them.

    We also added the *first city*, Enoch, built by Cain.

    Is anyone else adding this or just doing persons?

    I'm waffling back and forth because in one way I know we can add more each year, but in some ways its kind of good to put that added information if they are wanting it now........whats working for ya'll?
     
  8. Jackie

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    We're keeping reports, etc. in a seperate notebook. But keep in mind that our timeline book isn't a loose-leaf one. We can't add like you can. I have considered adding on similar to what you do with lapbooking, but am not ready for that yet.

    Hey, was SOTW the book that told how to make a mummy? We're going to be starting Egypt more seriously this week or next.
     
  9. TinaTx

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    Hey Jackie......

    No, I got the mummy idea for apples from this site http://www.ktca.org/newtons/13/mummy.html .

    SOTW does have a page long idea on mummifying a chicken that looks real good. :shock: For me, I'm saving that one for the next time around because it was a little more involved, bacteria,etc.took longer, because you have to check at the end of second and fourth week.. Sh esaid the chicken does smell. You are to wrap it in spices,handle carefully because of germetc.

    We did an Egyptian gameboard and jewelry ideas from this site:

    www2.gp4success.org.uk/egypt/TEACHER%20PLANNING/mummification.htm

    Matter of fact this one is a HUGE SITE, you'll start linking to everything else they have on this site..This site is part of my unit study on Egypt........

    In the SOTW, some of the projects are making the Nile river with pebbles, grass and water,(we didn't do this one) making the white crown of Upper Egypt (we did this), making the shepherd crook of the pharoahs, (we did this), making canopic jars, making hieroglyphic roll (we did this) oil with spices for scented oil (we didn't do this one), diorama of the Red Sea parting, sand cube step pyramid. We did a sugar cube pyramid instead.

    The pyramid we did was by Creative Teaching Press...Actually Sheila had it and emailed it to me.. I think it was from a book that she has.

    We made costumes from material.....and we used leopard print throws, and Hobby Lobby makes poster board in silver and gold that overlayed (cut in strips and put in layers)looks like gold jewelry and armor..

    We made the costumes because we had the crown and crook and flail (sp?). Look pretty good! :D .

    So between the egyptian gameboard, jewelry, crown, shepherds crook, costume, hieroglyphics, pyramid and mummification, I figured we did enough, even though I was *steaming* with some more ideas! :lol:

    Another one I wanted to do was make paper from reeds, but I think I exhausted the kids :lol: so we will save that one too for next time around....

    Any of those ideas help?
     
  10. Kim R

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    Here's another mummy project http://pbskids.org/dragonflytv/superdoit/fish_mummy.html. This one involves a fish. I think we'll do a fish and an apple. We are a little behind in getting started on our SOTW. Had lots of things going on. You all have inspired me to get on the ball and have more fun. Thanks to all for all the great timeline sites to get started on. These are of great help.
    Kim R
     
  11. Deena

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    We are STILL finishing up the Nomads--yesterday morning my younger two didn't want to stop, so we did maps, stories, coloring and many discussions! We looked up info. on what archaeologists deem the first, or at least one of the first, cities, and the first definite farming community---Catal Huyuk. We did a litle scrapbook type page to go in their history notebook that had pictures we found on line of Catal Huyuk, their summary of what it was and a big title at the top. It was rather simple, but very fun, according to them. We also found a great "soft" colored picture of the Fertile Crescent that I printed out and they could label rivers and the two early cities (Jericho and Catal Huyuk). They're hoping to do "lots more history stuff" tomorrow morning (since we were busy with appointments and things today). I just love that they love this so much, and we haven't even done the clay and all the other neat stuff that you guys have talked about yet! Tomorrow I think we're going to make a model of a shaduf. It says the Nomads used it, but also later the Assyrians. The directions are in the Usborne Book of World History on page 53. This will need to be the last thing we do with the Nomads though, cuz like Tina says, we've done enough on that subject for now, and can do more next time around! :D They're excited about moving on, they just really are enjoying what we're doing now too! I ended up ordering the SOTW Activity Book, and we've used a couple of the ideas from there also, including the map. We just received it on Monday, so we'll probably use more of the activities as time goes by.

    Tina, do you think you or Sheila could share the sugar cube pyramid directions?

    Jackie (and anyone else), remember to look at that National Geographic site I mentioned above, it has some neat activities about the pharoah mummies!
     
  12. Deena

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    Tina,

    I made it to that site, pretty neat! Thanks!!!
     
  13. TinaTx

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    Deena......

    I need to check the posts again re: national geographic site.. :? I must have missed that one so far..... I have been trying to bookmark as I go along.....


    I'll ask Sheila and see if she can post the directions or name of the book for the pyramid.. I did look at the bottom of the page and it said *Creative Teaching Press, Egypt*....I know a lot of publishers print *theme only* books like Egypt, Greece, and etc.

    I want to use some of Greenleaf Press material too on the second time around..They had a lot of info on the ancients you might want to look at Deena.

    Come on Kim :!:

    Get started with us, my history and timeline has been contagious for us!

    I think I've mentioned it before, but we do history ALL day on Friday...I couldn't do it any otherway because once we get started, we don't seem to stop. We got an *itch* today, but controlled ourselves to finish our composition. :lol: We started around 9:15 this past Friday and worked until 3:45 :shock: :shock: My buttocks :lol: were so sore from sitting on the floor that I think next time, I will have to employ the footstool as a table so we can at least sit on the couch....We just have too much fun spreading out all our junk that we just need the floor!
     
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    We had a fun day today! We changed our activity from making a shaduf to making a lean-to/hut like the ancient nomads, using what we found it our back yard, which is somewhat woodsy. My 9th grader really liked this idea too, and all three of my children had a great time. We had to stop and start over at one point, cuz what we had done wasn't working, and we "butted heads" a few times trying to figure out what would work (we had a great lesson in cooperation!) :lol: , but we managed to get a decent lean-to with sticks and branches and stuff. They were really excited about it! We took pictures at different stages of the operation, so they'll add the pictures to their writing of the "What We Did" paper. We got this idea from the SOTW Activity Book, p.12. They even got to check it in "inclement weather" cuz it rained some later in the day. It kept the rain out fairly well, so they were pleased!

    Boy, I tell ya, this is stuff kids will remember! I'm soooo glad my kids aren't inside reading a history book, but outside working on and experiencing things that others in history experienced! :D And even when they ARE inside, it's not just sitting and reading in a book, it's discovery and writing and figuring and all sorts of fun stuff! I would recommend this to ANYone! :D
     
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    Oh, Tina,

    Did you find the message back a ways where the Nat. Geog. site is? It's on Oct. 18ish I think. It's ngkids, cuz they have a kids section.
     
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    Okay, Here's my next question:

    It seems that Some things put cuneiform first, and some put Hieroglyphics first. As of yet (though I haven't looked REAL deeply yet), I haven't found dates that say one way or another specifically. I do know that SOTW puts the Egyptians and stuff before they talk about the first writing, and that the Usborne History of the World has the first writing first. We're at that step right now, anyone have any ideas on which way to go? Also, I've seen that you've done cuneiform things, but haven't heard you talking about the hieroglyphics. Is it because the H. are too hard to draw, etc.?

    Thanks for your time!
     
  17. Brooke

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    Deena, MOH uses cuneiforms during the study of the Sumerians (c. 3500-2500 B.C.).
     
  18. Deena

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    Yes, but did that come before you started Egyptian stuff, or after? I guess we'll just follow the SOTW way, though it seems to jump a little forward, then backtrack. But maybe it's just laying a base for what's to come...

    My 11 yo ds still just can't get enough!!! He gets so disappointed when we have to put this away to do math and other things that NEED to be done! I'm trying to incorporate as much as I can into this study, so he's doing less in some of his other books (language, spelling, etc.), because that's being done in all the writing he's doing. But math---well, he's gotta do that! :)
     
  19. TinaTx

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    Hey Deena.......

    In SOTW it brings out that the "first writing" is by Egyptians on stone and Sumerians on clay tablet in cuneiform. Then hieroglyphics. Later on paper was added by the Egyptians which obviously didn't hold up as well as stone.

    I actually have a problem with both SOTW and MOH :roll: :p as that being the FIRST writing. The Bible speaks of the *book of Adam's history* in Genesis..It would stand to reason they recorded their event/communication some way. I know we don't know that for sure, :( but in my very humble, humble opinion I believe writing was much earlier! So I taught the general view of what we know for sure, and then showed them *Adam's book of history" spoken of in Genesis.. :wink:

    Yes some of this will be overlapping repeating and backtracking in an attempt to piece it together. For example, early on you have the old kingdom of Egypt and then much later you will study the new kingdom of Egypt.

    SOTW does a good job of laying the groundwork on some world powers, but then showing when they were at their *heighth*.. Other world powers, she introduces and shows their Golden Era right away just because there is sooooo much here to learn.

    Good thing we will be visiting this again too, we too can't get enough...

    I feel like Jackie, this has been the highlight of our year, and its just starting! :D We are *hooked* :D
     
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