I'm apalled!

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  1. MommasBoys

    MommasBoys New Member

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    http://wcbstv.com/topstories/baldwin.naked.sex.2.888922.html



    I don't post often, I mostly come here and read for wisdom and guidance:) I just happen to come across this and it turned my stomach, literally! My youngest son is turning 13 in a few weeks, and I could not imagine this happening to him.

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    That makes me sick.
     
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    I don't feel sorry for the kid, truthfully. He probably thought he was all that and a bag of Doritos. A grown woman attracted to him probably grew his ego to giant proportions.

    Now- the woman I don't get. What's the attraction to a young kid? This happened here not long ago. They caught a 44 year old woman with the same kid twice. I'll be 44 in April, and I see absolutely no use in doing something so obviously stupid. These women must have zero self esteem or they'd go get a man their own age.
     
  6. amym

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    Would you feel the same if it was a 13 year old girl with a 40 year old man? Or if it was your son?
    The fact is it is still an adult taking advantage of a minor who most likely isn't going to have the ability to make a sound decision in such a situation. It also sets up the child to become more sexually active with girls his own age, increasing the risks for spreading stds and unwanted pregnancies....
    There should be no double standard when it comes to protecting children against sexual preditors.
     
  7. Birbitt

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    This is just disgusting to me. I don't understand people like that and she has children of her own?!?!?! I fear for her own children and their well being living under the same roof with her.
     
  8. mamaof3peas

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    i have to agree with amym, he is not grown up. He is a child, that is why 13 year olds cant drive or fight for our country. They physically dont have the brain maturity to control impulses like adults do. Im not saying he maybe didnt know better, but he was lured by an adult, so maybe that was the confusing part for him.

    You know, its just like when a girl who dresses sexy gets raped, or a kid drinking gets killed drinking and driving. Sure, they were doing wrong, and they knew better, but that doesnt make it any less of a tragedy or horrific for the parents. We need to stop throwing stones and passing judgement, drop our stones, have compassion and let the most High Judge have control and judgement over things.
     
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    The sad part is that these things keep happening and the women are getting off very easily. This one will be no different, she'll get a slap on th wrist.
     
  10. JLee74

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    Thats just horrible. :(
     
  11. becky

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    To be really honest, I'd have to see the 13 year old girl. I went to school with girls that I know were putting out, although with boys our age.
    And if it were my son? He'd want to see the 40 yr old first...
    Let's keep in mind I'm not saying this activity is okay.
     
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    I don't know about that. That teacher, the one that eventually married the kid she had sex with, where can she go and she's not notorious? She'll never, ever live that down, plus her grandchildren will know what she did. Heck- generations of hers will be able to google her name and find out all over again.
     
  13. Jackie

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    Yes, she will. She'll move out of town, and no one will ever know. I mean, if she were to move next door to me, I wouldn't have any idea. I don't google all my neighbors. No one will know or care 1o or 15 years down the road.
     
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    I don't mean the woman in this story, I was referring to Mary Letourneau, who eventually married the young boy she had sex with. They made a Lifetime movie about her! Can you picture one of her descendants tracing the family tree and coming up with that bombshell?
     
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    Do you seriously think she's going to use the name Letourneau? I think what she did will come back and bite here here and there, but for the most part, all she needs to do is move somewhere to moderate to large sized city and I think she'll go unnoticed.
     
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    I still wouldn't know if she moved next door to me. Even if her name was mentioned, I wouldn't think twice about it, unless someone pointed the fact out to me.
     
  17. amym

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    There is a huge difference between girls (boys) having sex with people their own age and being taken advantage of or manipulated into a sexual relationship with a "mature" adult. The fact is these adults are nothing more than pedophiles and it doesn't matter what the previous activities of the child were..........they are still a child.
    And whether you meant it in a joking manner or not, if you found out your son was in a relationship with a 40 year old woman at the age of 12 or 13, can you seriously say that if he said "but mom she's hot!" You would say, "oh well that makes sense! Carry on."
     
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    You're twisting what I'm saying, so I will clarify one more time-
    I do not condone this behavior out of an adult.
    If Kevin, at age 12 or 13, told me or I found out he had been messing with some 40 year old, I'd get the cops involved. I'd do the same if it was a 21 year old as well.

    That said, I still don't see all these 'victims' as victims. If they were threatened, physically beaten or that kind of thing- yes, they are truly victims. However, if they were not , if they weren't drugged or any of that, if they were participating of their own free will- including hiding it from parents or bragging to friends- then they are not victims. That's just my opinion. Now- my opinion does not give permission to the perverts of the planet to do their deed, either. It's just how I see this situation.

    Miley Cyrus is dating a guy at least 21 year old and I can't get over that no one is pointing out the fact that the relationship is illegal.I don't know his actual age, but I know he is of age. She's 16, last I heard. How many moms of girls who idolize Miley Cyrus are looking the other way on this, or ignoring it? I haven't heard the Miley Cyrus has come out to promote abstinence, either, in her own relationship or just abstinence in general.

    Let me guess, though- it's Miley Cyrus, so that's different.
     
  19. Jackie

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    I'm agreeing with Becky to a certain point. I've seen too many "little girls" who are dressed like whores by their mother who thinks it's "so cute". They are being immersed in sex from a very young age, and start coming on to older guys at 13 and 14. These kids are NOT "victims" of perverts, but "victims" society. Yes, a 40-something should know better. PERIOD! But a a young 18, 19 YO who honestly thinks the girl is older because she acts older and dresses older is JUST AS MUCH a victim!

    And Becky's right about young media stars who are dating older guys, and no one seems to care.

    Now, my best friend in college looked up her birth mom, then went to California to meet her. She had a half-sister there, age 16, who was dating a 40-something guy. Mom had just come back from Lake Tahoe where she had spent a week with her (mom's) boyfriend. When the 16yo complained, Mom told her, "Your (40-something) boyfriend has a place in Aspen! Talk him into taking you there...."
    And my best friend was SO happy this lady gave her up for adoption!!!
     
  20. momofafew

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    Overall, I am tired of the fact that most 12-14 yr olds here are dating. I think it is sick. I posted about this before and was fried pretty much by some people here who think this early sexualization of children is ok and they did it as kids too. I do not think it is ok. When you tell a 12 yr old that dating is fine and normal at their age, let them be alone in their bedrooms with a child of the other gender-or alone in the house, let them date exclusively, and so on..then why should that child think things are different when the person of the other gender is a couple years older? And frankly, if you condone sex for a 12-14 yr old, why does it matter if the sex partner is 18+? They are still having sex. I know someone is going to post that allowing a child to be home alone with someone of the opposite gender, in their bedroom with the door closed, going on exclusive dates, having a very private relationship and so on is not the same as condoning sex....it is. How is it different?

    Children need to be allowed to be children. My 14 yr old was upset and we had a convo a short bit ago about how he feels like a failure as he is too scared to ask a girl out. He really felt it was expected of him and that he was on the outside because he was not dating. I told him it was not only not expected of him, but not allowed. You know what? At the end of our long conversation, he was relieved! He got a pass to be a child for another few years. He learned that not only is it ok for him to be a child, but it is mandated..and he is happy about it. And 10 yrs from now, when he is dating or married, I am certain he will be happy he had his childhood and has not been at the dating thing for the last 10-15 yrs.

    My neice is so much wiser than my sister. My sister is a public school teacher so she is all in to the popularity thing and doesn't think outside the box. So, she was thrilled over my neices dating life. My 12 yr old neice has been dating for about 2 yrs now. It just went too far recently. My sister was all excited about this boy finally accepting my neice's requests for a date. They were going to the movies together, just the 2 of them. They were also going to the school dance the next week after that, 2 weeks from the initial acceptance of the date. My neice was often on the cell phone late in to the night with the boy and such. My sister was thrilled. She was taking neice to get her hair done under the whole idea that she was doing this for the boy, not herself. She would say she should look good for her date, not for herself. They went to the movies and then that Monday, my neice said she did not want a boyfriend. She was tired of not seeing her friends anymore. She was tired of some cattying jealous girls at school giving her a hard time. She said she is not even old enough to really "be in love." She tried to explain to my sister that she wants to be a kid again. My sister told her she cannot break up a week after they started going together. The dance was that weekend. At the dance, as my neice hung with the guy and the guy with her, she finally decided to go against her mother and pulled the guy in to a private place (it is easy for the kids to sneak off and be alone at the public school like that) and break up with him. She told him he is a nice guy and she does not want to hurt him, but she wants to be a kid and hang out with friends and just have a good time, not just be someone's girlfriend trying to impress him. The boy was hurt and embarrassed as it happened at the school dance. He had apparently bought a gift for neice.

    I think it is sick that all this pressure and such had to go on with two 12 yr old children. My sister was not at all concerned that she pushed my poor neice in to being all grown up so young. I am so shocked that my neice showed such maturity. I am proud of her. Shame on my sister for pushing things to that.

    12 yr olds do not want to date and they think they have to. Other kids tell them they have to and parents, afraid of their child not being popular, push their children in to it.

    So back to the original issue at hand..if parents show that all this is ok and even expected, then how can the kids possibly know the difference between doing it with someone their own age, and doing it with someone older? Seriously, that line is soo fine, I would not expect any child to know to not cross it. And seriously, I cannot see why it would be ok to do that stuff with someone in the 10-17 yr old bracket but not 18+ bracket.
     
  21. becky

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    I think the whole mess is the fault of the advertisers. You don't see plain, completely dressed models in the store ads, you see thin, cheesily dressed girls with guys smiling down at them. Remember the Calvin Klein ads from back in the day? And Victoria's Secret now? It's no wonder kids have messed up ideals, if they do.
     

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