Pray for the ruling to be overturned :(

hey ~ did i tick you off? sorry if i did....

seriously...totally not my intention here.

i enjoy discussions of all sorts and find the different takes on things interesting... i happened to come down into this one here because it's something going on right now in my country, so it does have a bit of a personal feel to it kwim?

 

good to know & thanks :love: ~ truthfully, the world would be a pretty boring place if we were all cookie cutter duplicates of each other anyway wouldn't it?

[ok so i could use a cookie cutter me to do my housework...]

 

Hopefully you saw from my other response that you did not tick me off. I did sound a bit ruffled, huh? lol. No, actually just stating that I really was not prepared to discuss this outside of personal feelings...that was my drive.

Just remember...I'm Ava Rose...nice to meet you and never worry about ticking me off or offending me. I speak my mind and love it when others do the same. I am never angry...maybe sarcastic but always harmless no matter how poorly it comes across. lol. I only take offense by things that offend my God and for the most part that is not the person but the overall issue type thing or sin.

 

haha. this is me ~ nose in everywhere, never really done despite slamming the door :lol:

love the bolded. i haven't got the highest hopes for this world either, so we're agreeing there as well

you know what? that makes a lot of sense. i do admit that i sometimes hang on to the whole 'can't we just all get along' thing... but like you said, in the end *someone* is gonna win and *someone* is gonna lose. there are some very divisive issues that just.don't.have.a.middle to meet in....[and that isn't even necessarily a christian/secular thing either .. can happen anywhere]

 

Well loads of people have premartial sex and they "get paid for it" because they went to dinner or movie etc
People have sex all the time and either they pay straight cash or "pay for it" in other ways..gifts, dinner , etc. Morally wrong can't tell ya because some would say that sex is what got most women their rich husbands and they provide that same service to get what they want during the marriage too.


People have babies to get more welfare money..morally wrong but no law thats says it
can't be done. Maybe we should have a law that limits how many children they can have while on welfare, because its morally wrong to bring children into this just for more money.


My taxes go to A LOT of items that I think are morally wrong but its the law and thats where my taxes go. This is a law that is being voted on and I think a lot more good could come of this then back alley deals that are already going on.

 

yeah i backtracked

glad to know it wasn't as i'd thought for a bit there ~ the last thing i want to do after hitting up a new board is annoy the crow out of people. :lol:

 

The difference here again, is apples and oranges. How on earth is that (someone buying dinner then having sex) even a relivent close comparison (to paying someone straight cash for their 'deeds')?

Sure people abuse the system, and it's wrong, but it's hard to acuse someone of that or find them guilty based on evidence. Joe Shmoe is caught with his pants down...that's a lot easier to acuse because you have the hard evidence.

And ACTUALLY...there ARE laws about abusing the system, etc. and it IS illegal. Maybe not the babies part, but other ways of abusing the system are.

Seriously....this all disgusts me, and like I said...if it's wrong in God's eyes, I can't support it. Like Ava said though, at the end of the day one side will win. If it's the other side of my view I still wont like it, but I KNOW God is in control and trust in Him. :love:

 

Okay...so rather than comparing prostitution to premarital sex or whatever...lol...can someone tell me just HOW prostitution is moral?

 

fly by posting because i'm in the middle of a phone call but if you guys would like to see the actual ruling, you can view it as a pdf document (it was put up on the CBC news site, so it's legal & legit and all)

http://www.cbc.ca/news/pdf/bedford-ruling.pdf

 

We try to legislate morality all the time. Murder is a crime, having more than one wife is a crime, for the moment late term abortion is a crime, speeding is a crime. We try to legislative all across the spectrum. All of these are "moral" issues. The question isn't whether we can legislate morality it is, whose morality do we legislate?

IMO anything against God's law is grounds for legislation against it.

 

Agreed! While, not everyone agrees and I do not expect everyone to...God's World, God's Rules.

 

Ava I like your spunk. And I love that you used a term I had forgotten about the world 'going to hell in a handbasket.' That pretty much sums up how I feel on the whole subject of prostitution. Hence the prayer request.

 

Thanks...I'm glad someone does..LOL. Honestly, until this thread I had not used "hell in a handbasket" in years! LOL

 

There IS a "law" that says some of this stuff shouldn't be done (actually there is two)

1. Christ's law.

2. Common sense.

It's sad we have to "legislate" everything, and nothing is left up to common sense! Really! No matter what there is always going to be someone out there that says, "Hey...what if I do X and get Z in return?" even if it IS morally wrong or criminally wrong.

 

Thumbs up!

 

Speaking from a Christian perspective here...

Having a law against something doesn't legislate morality. Morality can't be legislated. Certain actions can be punished by law. But true morality begins in the heart. The actions of the heart can't be punished by law unless they are acted upon. We can't change the heart by laws. We can only punish behavior.

I'm saying all this to try to state that having a law against prostitution doesn't prevent it. Having a law against murder doesn't prevent it. Sure, most things we have laws for should have punishment equated with it. God changes the heart. So as Christians instead of pushing for legislation toward promoting moral actions we should put that emphasis in preaching Christ.

If I had to vote I would vote against legislating prostitution. But this law doesn't really change anything. People out there working in prostitution are in need of Christ either way.

 

Good point, Embassy.

 

well, the concept of a 'sugar daddy' fits if you'd like... someone who provides (most often) 'sexual favours' for someone else - usually a younger female providing that for an older wealthier male. one could make the argument that there really isn't much difference between the man paying the woman in cash or in cars/clothes/jewelry/etc.

 

hey i'm impressed ~ canada made american news :lol:

 

slightly OT but i remembered what the area was called: Kakabeka Falls ~ the princess story is there on the entry.